What religion are you?

[Canyarion]

Originally Posted by The Germanator

I don't personally have anything against them...It's just that I don't understand why they have to keep coming back. We live in the country, in the middle of nowhere. They have to drive out to see us...it just seems like a lot of effort for a cause that if it doesn't work the first time you come to someone's house, it probably will not work the second time.

Anyway, I think the reason they keep returning is because my Step-dad is always real nice to them. If he isn't home I usually just pretend I'm not there either so I don't have to interact with them and feel awkward...

Canyarion, you've never come to my door, so you're not damned.

Well first of all, if you pretend to not be at home, yes, they will come back next week.
We keep track of who was home and who wasn't, so you better just open up.

And there are plenty of cases where people were always agressive towards us, but after a while something happens and they're suddenly interested and became our brother or sister.
Coming back helps, really.

And perhaps I don't come at your door, but I come at others, so........

Think about it, if we do so much effort to tell people, it must be very important.

[Typhoid]

Originally Posted by Canyarion

And there are plenty of cases where people were always agressive towards us, but after a while something happens and they're suddenly interested and became our brother or sister.
Coming back helps, really.

Whenever Jehovas or whoever it maybe come to our door, we let them in, then My dad and me try and convert them to Atheism. Its quite humerous, really.

[Canyarion]

Ghehe that's actually not bad. But they'll realise soon enough that there's no point in discussing with SOME people...
Edit: I think it's réaly hard to convince a Jehova's Witness that there is no God. We kinda... know better..

[dropCGCF]

Originally Posted by Canyarion

Ghehe that's actually not bad. But they'll realise soon enough that there's no point in discussing with SOME people...
Edit: I think it's réaly hard to convince a Jehova's Witness that there is no God. We kinda... know better..

I don't like Jehovah's witnesses in general. They come to my house, trying to convert me. I say that I'm a Muslim extremist and that I either have to convert them or kill them. Hilarity ensues.
I don't force my beliefs on them, do I? Why should they force theirs on mine? I don't think it says anywhere in your doctrine that you're supposed to annoy people.
I say that the man who does good out of love for his fellow man is more rightgeous than the one who does it because his god tells him to. Any slack-jawed yokel can say a few psalms and praise God fo the wonders of what he can't explain. It takes a wise man to try and figure out the answers.

[mickydaniels]

Originally Posted by dropCGCF

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I don't force my beliefs on them, do I? Why should they force theirs on mine? I don't think it says anywhere in your doctrine that you're supposed to annoy people.

But if you feel that your religion is right and true and it is foretold that massive calamity is going to befall your neighbors, and they don't know about it, don't you have a responsibilty to let them know in advance, so that they could at least prepare? Just like with the hurricanes, for example. Let's say you lived in Florida and had a neighbor that never comes outside, and has no TV or radio. Meanwhile one of these hurricanes is coming and will hit your neighborhood. Isn't it your duty to let him know about what's going on, so he could make a decision on what to do? And if something bad happened because of that storm, aren't you going to feel guilty knowing that you could have at least warned him?

Originally Posted by dropCGCF

I say that the man who does good out of love for his fellow man is more rightgeous than the one who does it because his god tells him to.

I don't think so. You know why? Because God can tell you to do something, but you don't necessarily have to do it; you can turn the other way and refuse. He has never operated under the motto of "Do what I say, or else", otherwise, you'd be struck dead the first time you commit a serious sin. And also, you have a foundation on why you do the things you do. If you do good out of love for your fellow man, you're functioning under feelings, and everyone knows feelings are subject to change. God is not.

Originally Posted by dropCGCF

Any slack-jawed yokel can say a few psalms and praise God fo the wonders of what he can't explain. It takes a wise man to try and figure out the answers.

Figure out the answers to what?

[dropCGCF]

Originally Posted by mickydaniels

But if you feel that your religion is right and true and it is foretold that massive calamity is going to befall your neighbors, and they don't know about it, don't you have a responsibilty to let them know in advance, so that they could at least prepare? Just like with the hurricanes, for example. Let's say you lived in Florida and had a neighbor that never comes outside, and has no TV or radio. Meanwhile one of these hurricanes is coming and will hit your neighborhood. Isn't it your duty to let him know about what's going on, so he could make a decision on what to do? And if something bad happened because of that storm, aren't you going to feel guilty knowing that you could have at least warned him?

It's commonly accepted fact that the hurricane is coming, right? Well, for one, right now, i want to warn you that the unicorns are going to return.

Scoffing, are you? You're defending the same thing. No one man can prove definitively that god exists. He can just prove things wrong on why he can't exist. Prove to me that unicorns aren't coming back, or even that they never existed. Guess what? You can't. What's the use in warning people about a hurricane if you can't prove there's one there?

I don't think so. You know why? Because God can tell you to do something, but you don't necessarily have to do it; you can turn the other way and refuse. He has never operated under the motto of "Do what I say, or else", otherwise, you'd be struck dead the first time you commit a serious sin. And also, you have a foundation on why you do the things you do. If you do good out of love for your fellow man, you're functioning under feelings, and everyone knows feelings are subject to change. God is not.

Sure, God can't tell you what to do. HE'll love you anyways no matter what you do, right? Then what's the point of preaching his goodness? He'll love me no matter what I do, right? So leave me the hell alone.
You're contradicting yourself, saying that I need to be warned of "massive calamity" when it doesn't matter whether it happens or not because I'll be saved anyways.

Figure out the answers to what?

Life's riddles. It's easier for a man to explain the mysteries of the universe in terms of god, but it's a lot more taxing to actually try and solve those mysteries.

[TheSlyMoogle]

A few centuries ago it was widely accepted that there were many Gods who ruled in a counsel.

A few centuries ago people believed the earth is flat.

A few centuries ago people believed the earth was the center of the universe.

A few centuries ago the people believed that the Roman Catholics weren't lying to them.

A few years ago the people believed Child Molestation didn't happen in the catholic church system.

A Few centuries from now, won't it be amazing to see that things we don't believe in anymore?

[mickydaniels]

Originally Posted by dropCGCF

Sure, God can't tell you what to do. HE'll love you anyways no matter what you do, right? Then what's the point of preaching his goodness? He'll love me no matter what I do, right? So leave me the hell alone.
You're contradicting yourself, saying that I need to be warned of "massive calamity" when it doesn't matter whether it happens or not because I'll be saved anyways.
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He'll love you no matter what? Where the hell did you get that from? You won't get saved anyway, because mercy does not last forever. It gives you a chance to come to the proper path, and if you ignore it, then you are destroyed. You are given a warning and a chance for an out when you are being preached to. You choose to reject knowing the consequences, and the calamity befalls you. Like I said, you can either choose to listen or not listen. That's what I meant by you are not forced to do anything.