What religion are you?

[Classic Rocker]

I'm Jewish Catholic..oh and I have one friend who is Muslim Catholic..

[Ace195]

I'm not sure if I said already but I'm lutheran, I usted to attend a church called faith lutheran Until I stopped beileving in organized religion one day when politics were talked about in a surmon.. Politics have no place in a house of god

[Kitana85]

Originally Posted by Ace195

I'm not sure if I said already but I'm lutheran, I usted to attend a church called faith lutheran Until I stopped beileving in organized religion one day when politics were talked about in a surmon.. Politics have no place in a house of god

right... only, when you pay attention to the scriptures, Jesus was killed for political reasons, in his discourses with Pharasees, etc, their religion vs. his never came into play... HOW you vote, DIRECTLY correlates with the religious (read moral) implications of what you experience. The paster shouldn't tell you how to vote, or believe on an issue, but politics must come up sometimes, or often a sermon is not as well preached as it should (the words of a preacher are supposed to come after hours of prayer)

[DimHalo]

Originally Posted by Classic Rocker

I'm Jewish Catholic..oh and I have one friend who is Muslim Catholic..

This is me showing my lack of knowledge. But I've never heard of those. Could you explain please?

[Canyarion]

Originally Posted by jeepnut's slave

This is me showing my lack of knowledge. But I've never heard of those. Could you explain please?

.... I kinda think he's just kidding.

And Ace, you're right, religion shouldn't interfere with politics. Jesus didn't do that, he even refused when they wanted to make him king.
of course I want to tell you that Jehovah's Witnesses are politicly neutral...

[Typhoid]

Originally Posted by Canyarion

of course I want to tell you that Jehovah's Witnesses are politicly neutral...

Phew....good thing you didnt.


What I dont see, is whats the big deal about Gay marriage? This may not be a religious thing, but i know Bush is a religious man, by his numerous "God Bless America" quotes, and im pretty sure in the bible it says something like "No man shall lay down with another man." Now, Im not gay, so this doesnt affect me at all, I just dont see how you can descriminate against someone, when they have no control over something. But then again, im getting into another issue now.

But is gay marriage illegal in the US because of religious reasons?


And to quote that funny video Dylflon posted "Who the f*** are you to turn your views into my laws?"

[Canyarion]

Well, politics shouldn't control decide for you in these matters. Only religion can, I think.

Yes, some people are born gays. But that doesn't always mean they can't enjoy a woman.
Even if they can't, they'll have to make sacrafices to receive God's favor.

Everybody is born with its own problems. Some have a severe handicap to deal with. Others lose their parents when they are young. It's your choice to 'obey' God or not.

[Kitana85]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

And to quote that funny video Dylflon posted "Who the f*** are you to turn your views into my laws?"

With that I almost totally agree... Canyarian, you're just WRONG. What are you talking about Jesus never discussed politics? John 5 for starters, the law had become national law, Matthew 22:21, hate to break it to you, but he was NOT skirting the issue in the least, Even Matthew 27, and the corillating verses in the other gospels, they speak to a political assasination. Never is religion brought into the charges... remember, the Jews viewed themselves as their own nation (a case of the nation creating the state), when they say king of the jews, that is meant in a territorial manner... if Jesus is King, then the emperor is not. Etc, there are many more c:v's that can me cited...

I do agree with what Typhod quoted, in that your beliefs should make up my laws, however, they do have to come into play to some extend... why not murder, what honestly is wrong with it... why not steal (is it nothing but an uniformed version of redistribution of wealth)? most of these stigmas came from religious contexts... ESPECIALLY ADULTERY... Hey, the golden rule, even that has religous basis (actually in evey religion). Most laws are an extensions of the common morality, thus, some will come from personal beliefs, mainly because from where else will they stem??
However, in times such as this, and in general, it should be taken lightly... The amount of CHRISTIANITY in the government right now is a bit nausiating...and the same sex union ban based on the pres's religious beliefs, thats just dumb...

[Canyarion]

Jesus discussed some politics, he didn't interfere.

What does he say in Matthew 22:21? That you should obey the law, pay your taxes. He didn't try to lower the taxes or something!

And in those other cases, he had the right to change the laws of old, because he was going to give us new laws. But those 'laws' had to to with religion, not ruling the country. That was the 'job' of the Romans...

[Bond]

Please keep in mind most people are representing their own beliefs, and not really what any particular religion believes.

[Joeiss]

For people wondering about whether or not good people who don't believe in God will go to Heaven or not... Here is a great post from another forum that I want to share here:

"It is not anyone's place to judge for ourselves where someone is going. That is up to God. But Jesus said:

"I am the Way, the Truth and the Life. No man cometh unto the Father, but by me." John 14:6
"

[dropCGCF]

Originally Posted by Joeiss

For people wondering about whether or not good people who don't believe in God will go to Heaven or not... Here is a great post from another forum that I want to share here:

"It is not anyone's place to judge for ourselves where someone is going. That is up to God. But Jesus said:

"I am the Way, the Truth and the Life. No man cometh unto the Father, but by me." John 14:6
"

Prove there is a God.

[Joeiss]

The Bible

[Typhoid]

Originally Posted by Joeiss

The Bible

Prove the Bible wasnt written by insane and metally ill people.

Prove the Bible wasnt written entirely by men.

Prove the Bible wasnt a scare tactic to get people to follow rules so they wouldnt start an uprisal.