Real American Heros

[Professor S]

Yes, real American heroes who are showing sympathy to the poor Iraqi people by expressing how they are against the war that freed them from a brutal tyrant who murdered 50,000 Iraqi citizens a year (1.5 million in total over 30 years).

Yay for them. What a wonderfully ignorant, useless and tasteless gesture.

[Ace195]

I think I speak for all the guys in my office when I say it makes us sick that people, show their true colors in that way.

[Neo]

How do you kill 50k per year? I mean seriously that would require a lot of work. That's over 136 people per day.

[Yoda9864]

It would require some work, which exemplifies how much of a sadistic bastard Sadaam was.

[Neo]

Here's a question for you. Suppose you had found Saddam in a room somewhere and with him is an innocent child who is crying and screaming "please don't let me die" over and over. Now all you have with you is a grenade, so in order to kill Saddam you have to kill the child too. So considering that Saddam has killed thousands of people and will potentially kill more in the future, would you feel justified in blowing up the kid along with Saddam? Keep in mind you are going to be forced to tell the child's crying mother afterwards and explain why you had to kill her child.

What I'm getting at is that it's no secret the U.S. has killed thousands of civilians, including children, over the past several years during our fights with Iraq. It's easy to dismiss these casualties as unfortunate necessities when you aren't the one pulling the trigger, but if you knew you would be directly responsible for their deaths, would you maybe feel differently?

[Ace195]

Nope, I wouldn't "sacrafice the few to save the many" It's used in triage in the hospitals, if you were a doctor would you feel bad if you didn't save a little boy that was terminal or the guy that was going to make it ?

It's diffrence in circumstance you can't compare anything to it unless your there at the time.


When the us bombs we don't do it to kill groups of innocent people.. It happens by accident but when saddamn did it he did it becuase he's evil.

[Neo]

Yeah well going into it we know for a fact we will be "accidentally" killing innocents. No we don't want to kill them but we know it's going to happen when we pull the trigger. The end result is what we expect would happen. The only realistic "package deal" we can go for includes the killing of innocents, so it is the package we intend to get; therefore we intend to kill a certain number of innocents.

If you drive your car down the road at high speed and end up mowing some guy down, you may not have been intending that to happen but you're just as guilty.

The United States embraces the utilitarian philosophy that we should kill the few to save the many. The conclusion is inescapable.