EA will take over the world...slowly but surely... - Page 2

Perfect Stu · 12-14-2004, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by jeepnut

Not if all they have to do is update the rosters to get suckers to buy these games every year. Throw in a few meaningless gimmicks that they have access to as a result of this deal and boom, virtual money machine.

I've put about 500 hours into EA Sports titles over the past 20 months or so

The games may be very similar to the previous incarnation, but I still find that I get more quality gaming out of a few EA Sports titles than I do every other game minus one blockbuster each year.

Different strokes for different folks...

Joeiss · 12-14-2004, 07:46 AM

I'll be purchasing Madden 2006 to start a dynasty with the Steelers. Unless I purchase a new system, that will be the last football game I probably will ever buy.

KillerGremlin · 12-14-2004, 04:18 PM

I despise everything EA stands for, and I think the quality of their games are low. They have lots of money, and they appeal to the general masses. The general masses are retarded, unfortunately. If EA can buy the rights for NFL teams, imagine what else they can buy.......

Perfect Stu · 12-14-2004, 04:49 PM

Battlefield
SSX
Need For Speed

^^ those series are pure quality, I dont care who you are or what your gaming preferences are

DeathsHand · 12-14-2004, 05:29 PM

I think some people don't give EA enough credit...

As Stu mentioned, NFS, SSX... I'd like to add Medal of Honor (although some would disagree, specifically on the console games)... The Sims/Simcity...

However I don't like the idea of the only NFL football game being madden... I always liked Sega's better...

Joeiss · 12-14-2004, 05:34 PM

Medal of Honour is awesome on consoles!!

DeathsHand · 12-14-2004, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Joeiss

Medal of Honour is awesome on consoles!!

I agree, I actually prefer the two PS2 games to allied assault (havn't even finished it, whereas I played Frontline's missions over and over and over... and over and over...), but most people I've heard say AA is the best

Although apparently the new PC game (pacific assault) isn't too great... havn't played it yet though...

KillerGremlin · 12-14-2004, 06:03 PM

Yeah, Medal Of Honor Rocks, almost as much as the James Bond Series. Oh man, EA kicks Rare's ass. Up and down. The fact that all of EAs games all follow the same forumla makes them even better guys! I mean, it's like you get to pay 50 dollars for the same game 14 times! I love spending lots of money on the same thing, that's why I choose EA. F*ck all those developers that focus on innovations and new ideas, old school and lack of inovation all the way! And EA's approach to sports games, adding maybe 2 new things every year and charging full price for a clone of the same game, totally awesome! Better then Sega's cheaper games! Totally awesome guys, totally awesome.

Typhoid · 12-14-2004, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by KillerGremlin

Yeah, Medal Of Honor Rocks, almost as much as the James Bond Series. Oh man, EA kicks Rare's ass. Up and down. The fact that all of EAs games all follow the same forumla makes them even better guys! I mean, it's like you get to pay 50 dollars for the same game 14 times! I love spending lots of money on the same thing, that's why I choose EA. F*ck all those developers that focus on innovations and new ideas, old school and lack of inovation all the way! And EA's approach to sports games, adding maybe 2 new things every year and charging full price for a clone of the same game, totally awesome! Better then Sega's cheaper games! Totally awesome guys, totally awesome.

Ok then Mr. Smartypants.

What are the differences in Sega's last sports games?
What about Sega's second series games?

Games are just updates. Thats all they are.

If one game follows another game, its just an updated game.

Halo 2? ( i know) I could Live with the Origional Halo. Whats different with it? Storyline and Graphics? So what.

Perfect Stu · 12-14-2004, 07:03 PM

Hey Killer,

I love how some people (like myself) enjoy EA's games (

) meanwhile top EA managers are making millions of dollars ($$$) and people like yourself whine and hate.

I just love it

dont you?

KillerGremlin · 12-14-2004, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Typhoid

Ok then Mr. Smartypants.

What are the differences in Sega's last sports games?
What about Sega's second series games?

Games are just updates. Thats all they are.

If one game follows another game, its just an updated game.

Halo 2? ( i know) I could Live with the Origional Halo. Whats different with it? Storyline and Graphics? So what.

Sega's sports games where considerably cheaper at launch, they were not 50 dollars. The difference is Sega didn't make you pay full price for an updated roster and a few new features, whereas every new EA title to hit the market launches at 50 dollars.

You're dead on with sequals being updates. That's precisely why the gaming industry has gone stale.

Considering the fact that all 3 consoles have online capabilities, new rosters should be included as downloadable content for maybe 5-10 dollars. You shouldn't have to go drop 50 dollars to get an updated roster.

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Originally Posted by Perfect Stu

Hey Killer,

I love how some people (like myself) enjoy EA's games (

) meanwhile top EA managers are making millions of dollars ($$$) and people like yourself whine and hate.

I just love it

dont you?

I do, because in a few years, when EA has total dominince of the market, and you have to pay 50 dollars every year for an updated roster, everyone will be happy.

I'm trying to take the consumer side. If you want to support the corporal whores, so be it. EA is a powerful company, and the amount of crap they have released easily outweighs the good things they have released. They have ruined several series, and their approach to releasing games is humiliating to the industry in general.

EA seems to aim for a yearly sequal. That leaves little time for actual developement, and you get rehash after rehash. I wouldn't mind if we got a new football game every 3 or 4 years, and if you could just download an updated roster. If you disagree with me, fine. I'm not telling you to agree with me. I'm just pointing out that EA is weakening the industry.

Edit: And EA has done some good things. Clive Barker's Undying is one of the best First Person Shooters ever made. The SSX series is amazing, and Battlefield, despite borrowing many ideas from Tribes, took massive online FPSs to the next level. I don't deny that EA has done good things, it's just that they have fallen into a pattern of releasing a lot of bad games. And as you have probably gathered, I dislike their other habit of releasing annual sequals with very little new content, and making it a new game. I really would like to see a push for downloadable rosters or something...or not charging 50 dollars at launch - because what really justifies that cost?

Perfect Stu · 12-14-2004, 07:31 PM

EA doesnt force consumers to buy their products. Apparently everyone that's ever bought an EA product enjoys pure crap? If so, either join the party or start your own. EA demonstrates smart business, whether you like it or not. And smart business starts with finding a market and building, rebuilding, building, rebuilding, etc.

They have the money they do because they have served the consumer. This "pointing out that EA is weakening the industry" is completely subjective to each individual, so dont even bother with that. More people are partial to EA products than SEGA products like Seaman or Samba De Amigo, for a combination of reasons...one being advertising and publicity, something which money CAN buy, yes. But that's business.

If EA's growth and expansion TRULY affects you negatively, that's simply unfortunate. Nobody's fault...just unfortunate. I find it hard to believe it's worth the fit you're making over it.

oh, and about "me HAVING to spend $50 every year for roster updates" even if that WAS the case, I would make those fifty dollars in the amount of time you'd take complaining about it

KillerGremlin · 12-14-2004, 07:59 PM

That's fine.

I'm just a hardcore gamer who has played both the EA titles and the Sega titles, and I can happily say that Sega gave me more bang for a better price.

And same goes to almost every other genre, aside from maybe Snowboarding, that EA has gotten their hands on.

EA targets the masses.

And, just for irony’s sake, you could substitute all the EAs in your first paragraph with Mircosoft.

Just think about corporate powers and what they end up doing over time.

Typhoid · 12-14-2004, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by KillerGremlin

That's fine.

I'm just a hardcore gamer who has played both the EA titles and the Sega titles, and I can happily say that Sega gave me more bang for a better price.

So what?

I have both EA NHL 2005, and ESPN 2k5.

In my head, and with all of my friends, Its no contest that EA wins.

You know why Sega sports games are cheaper? Because 30 bucks is all they're worth. I wouldnt pay the price of an EA game for NHL 2k6. Not a chance.

But yes, if you scale it down, with Sega Sports games you do get more "bang for your buck" because They are barely worth the price on the shelf.

With EA, for any title, you know your getting a good game.

Who cares if EA owns the market? Not me. I like their games. If you care so much about how they dominate the gaming industry, why not fork over the dough to another brand so they can make better games.

Jason1 · 12-14-2004, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Typhoid

Who cares if EA owns the market? Not me. I like their games. If you care so much about how they dominate the gaming industry, why not fork over the dough to another brand so they can make better games.

Hey, been there done that. Ive been an avid Sega supporter for years, because their games are usually great, and we all know how Sega is doing these days. And like I said, I wont buy another EA game. And Im sure as hell standing by that. Im not sure about the rest of you, but I dont want to be playing crappy Bond, Lord of the Rings, and Harry Potter games exclusivly for the rest of my life. Because thats all EA really makes. EA couldnt make an good origional idea of their own, because all they do is get big liscenses and turn them into mediocre games. And thats all their games all...bought out liscenses turned into mediocre games...That and EA seems to constantly be buying out companies...Maxis comes to mind. EA is nothing but an utter whore of a company that I want nothing to do with. Whats next? "EA buys the FPS genre" ?