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Old 12-16-2004, 05:35 PM   #1
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Yeah, I would like to see a more grittier Zelda which I think the next Zelda on the 'Cube is gonna provide. Hopefully for the Revolution version of Zelda, there are many dungeons, enemies, etc..so it feels like an epic quest that hopefully isn't a boring mind quest

I dont know though.....Epic Mind Quests are what most Zelda's are all about.

They are mental quizzes, and they rack your brain because you have to remmeber where you saw Person A, because Person C says Person B wants you to talk to Person A.

A grittier Zelda, I wouldnt be opposed to though, like, Darker...but im not pushing for it with full force however.

And I agree, they should banish Kid Link to the pits of hell.
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Old 12-16-2004, 07:31 PM   #2
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I dont know though.....Epic Mind Quests are what most Zelda's are all about.

They are mental quizzes, and they rack your brain because you have to remmeber where you saw Person A, because Person C says Person B wants you to talk to Person A.

A grittier Zelda, I wouldnt be opposed to though, like, Darker...but im not pushing for it with full force however.

And I agree, they should banish Kid Link to the pits of hell.
The keyword I said was boring. I don't mind them being in the game, just make them "fun/interesting"
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Old 12-16-2004, 07:47 PM   #3
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The Legend of Zelda needs to remain the same. Giving this classic story a dark chapter will just result in a flop similar to Prince of Persia 2. It is not in character for Link to be 'dark' or to have an angry edge. That's not who he is. As a child, he is optimistic and righteous. As an adult he bears the same qualities only he is less playful and more serious. If someone who he cares for deeply were to be murdered or something along those lines, Link would not become a jaded rogue only set to seek revenge like Prince of Persia or Anakin Skywalker. That only happens to people who are weak at mind or heart. And Link is not for your information. Therefore, he would mourn for a period of time and after that continue to be heroic and do what is right. Sorry for you all evil fans who like to see good guys become bad. Not going to happen in this story.
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Old 12-16-2004, 07:55 PM   #4
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The Legend of Zelda needs to remain the same. Giving this classic story a dark chapter will just result in a flop similar to Prince of Persia 2. It is not in character for Link to be 'dark' or to have an angry edge. That's not who he is. As a child, he is optimistic and righteous. As an adult he bears the same qualities only he is less playful and more serious. If someone who he cares for deeply were to be murdered or something along those lines, Link would not become a jaded rogue only set to seek revenge like Prince of Persia or Anakin Skywalker. That only happens to people who are weak at mind or heart. And Link is not for your information. Therefore, he would mourn for a period of time and after that continue to be heroic and do what is right. Sorry for you all evil fans who like to see good guys become bad. Not going to happen in this story.

But isnt each Link a different person? Meaning like...in each game....isnt it a differnet person named "Link"?

Unless im crazy...
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Old 12-16-2004, 08:00 PM   #5
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But isnt each Link a different person? Meaning like...in each game....isnt it a differnet person named "Link"?

Unless im crazy...
Nope, it's Link in different periods of his life. Legend of Zelda loves to play with time. They always have.
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Old 12-16-2004, 08:32 PM   #6
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Nope, it's Link in different periods of his life. Legend of Zelda loves to play with time. They always have.
Miyamoto officially says in each game it's a different Link.

Obviously, some are the same. Like between Zelda 1 and 2, or between Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask.
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Old 12-16-2004, 09:00 PM   #7
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The Legend of Zelda needs to remain the same. Giving this classic story a dark chapter will just result in a flop similar to Prince of Persia 2. It is not in character for Link to be 'dark' or to have an angry edge. That's not who he is. As a child, he is optimistic and righteous. As an adult he bears the same qualities only he is less playful and more serious. If someone who he cares for deeply were to be murdered or something along those lines, Link would not become a jaded rogue only set to seek revenge like Prince of Persia or Anakin Skywalker. That only happens to people who are weak at mind or heart. And Link is not for your information. Therefore, he would mourn for a period of time and after that continue to be heroic and do what is right. Sorry for you all evil fans who like to see good guys become bad. Not going to happen in this story.
Did you even read my post? I talked about all that crap, and how it could be avoided and still get a more mature Zelda game.

And let me clarify this again. When I say mature, I in no one mean darker, grittier, more evil, or anything else relating to those. You don't have to be a foul mouthed, blood thirsty villian to be mature. Try to think of something like LotR. It's epic, it is more mature, but it's still a very fantasy heavy story. It is in no way a PoP2, that is a big example of how to do maturity wrong.

Come on people, don't be afraid of new things. Miyamoto is an artist, and if you want him to do the same damn thing everytime, I suggest you find a new video game creator to idolize.
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Old 12-16-2004, 09:24 PM   #8
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Miyamoto officially says in each game it's a different Link.

Obviously, some are the same. Like between Zelda 1 and 2, or between Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask.
They must be the same Link from different dimensions then because otherwise it would just be weird having different Links. It'd be like having a different Mario in certain Mario games.

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Did you even read my post? I talked about all that crap, and how it could be avoided and still get a more mature Zelda game.

And let me clarify this again. When I say mature, I in no one mean darker, grittier, more evil, or anything else relating to those. You don't have to be a foul mouthed, blood thirsty villian to be mature. Try to think of something like LotR. It's epic, it is more mature, but it's still a very fantasy heavy story. It is in no way a PoP2, that is a big example of how to do maturity wrong.

Come on people, don't be afraid of new things. Miyamoto is an artist, and if you want him to do the same damn thing everytime, I suggest you find a new video game creator to idolize.
Yeah I understand what you're saying I just think mature is the wrong word for what you're describing. Because Return of the King wasn't more 'mature' then the others. It was darker. And I think what you and I are saying is that the Legend of Zelda story can be given a dark chapter. The darkness would just have to be input into the plot rather than the character for it to work.
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Old 12-16-2004, 10:43 PM   #9
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They must be the same Link from different dimensions then because otherwise it would just be weird having different Links. It'd be like having a different Mario in certain Mario games.
Haven't you played Wind Waker? Just the intro makes it clear that it's different Links.
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Old 12-16-2004, 10:53 PM   #10
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I always wanted a Link's Bad Fur Day......but that'll never happen.

*Link drinks beer

"Burp. Zelda, biatch, get yo ass over here for some t-fing."

Yeah......okay, that'll never happen. But maybe a Mario's bad spaghetti day or something. The fact that the new Zelda game in the works is 3D is promising enough for me.
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Old 12-17-2004, 01:31 AM   #11
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Haven't you played Wind Waker? Just the intro makes it clear that it's different Links.
Link from Wind Waker is the same Link. Just a different dimension. Dimensions allow for one person to exist under several different circumstances and lifestyles. In another dimension, you live on an island with your grandmother and sister also. It's nothing shocking. It's something we all have to live with.
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Old 12-17-2004, 05:06 PM   #12
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I take back what I said about making Zelda grittier, it was a very bad idea, and I like what DM said better. Making it a grittier game would completely ruin the feeling of the game that I have come to love, which I realized a few hours after making my post. Zelda has always been fun for me because of the light heartedness style of it.

It would be alright if a few dungeons had a gritty and evil feel to them, but that's about it.

And GM, mature is the right word. DM doesnt want things to be darker, he wants it to be more mature. He wants the storyline and characters to be things that you need at least half a brain to understand. He wants it to have an epic feel that you need a more mature mind to understand.

And they are no doubt different links. For a very long time I thought they were the same link, but then I was reading my OoT players guide and it told me otherwise. Like GM I felt very dissapointed at first...but I don't really mind so much. From what I've read the Link and Zelda in every game are decedents of the original Link and Zelda, though I'm not sure which game is set in the earliest time period. Though I do believe that it is the same gannon every time, that just seems like it makes sense.
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Old 12-18-2004, 04:27 AM   #13
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*Response based on first two pages because frankly got sick of reading anymore of it.

What's with everyone wanting to banish kid Link to the pits of hell? You've only played as "adult link" (adult? wasn't he only 17 anyway?) once in an actual Zelda game and not even for the entire time. So I'm guessing you guys didn't enjoy any of the other 8 Zelda games when you played as kid Link eh? They would have been so much better if he was a few years older huh? and meaner? and more "is Link gonna have to choke a bitch?" Bah.
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Old 12-18-2004, 05:10 AM   #14
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Link choking a bitch, how interesting

But I'll clarify my grittier comment. The new Zelda for the 'Cube basically looks like how most people vision a Zelda game in 3D which is nice. WW was looking at Link's life from a kid's perspective. Kid's don't see dark gritty stuff, more "happy care free" things. But the new one is more teen/adultish Link so he sees things through his eyes differently.
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Old 12-18-2004, 09:56 AM   #15
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So I'm guessing you guys didn't enjoy any of the other 8 Zelda games when you played as kid Link eh?

LoZ: Doesn't specify age (probably a year or two younger than 16)
AoL: 16
ALttP: Doesn't specify age. Link is referred to as "kid," but that just means the person talking to Link is older than Link.
LA: Doesn't specify age.
OoT: Link's age is never actually specified. It is generall accepted, however, that we see Link in his approximately 10th and 17th years (or somewhere around there).
MM: Same as OoT. However, we only see him in his "10th" year.
Oracles: Doesn't specify age. Official art seems to portray Link in his early to mid teens.
TWW: Doesn't specify age. Probably around the same age as OoT/MM Link.


So... They might not have all been "kid" Link.

Although I don't really care which one I'm playing...

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