PS3's Cell Processor

Jonbo298 · 02-07-2005, 11:47 PM

Adding more buttons to the controller? Where would they go?

MuGen · 02-08-2005, 10:56 AM

In the third article it says that CELL is a vector processing unit. Deja vu maybe....hopefully the thought of finally achieving seamless, crisp, and clean graphics draws in Developers to design using the new PS3's full power. The ps2 had the same VPU but with Emotion Engine not CELL, but developer's didn't seem to enthused to design for it being so hard.

I say again... the thought of producing amazing graphics with CELL and VPU for the PS3 may draw in the developers and may give them that nudge they need to design better games.

CamFu · 02-08-2005, 12:52 PM

Don't take this as I'm a PS hater... but we have all heard this before. Does anybody remember the hype around the EE? How great that thing was supposed to be: Toy Story 2 Graphics! Able to control Missles! Numbers blew everything out of the water! No gaming system would be able to compete with what the PS2 would be able to show!

It is now at the end of this generation of consoles, and we have truly seen what the PS2 can do. It wasn't a blow out, all 3 systems all had their own ups and downs with they could do. Anybody can agrue until they are blue in the face about how great the PS2 is (technology wise), but it did not have an upper hand on Nintendo or Microsoft. Actually, you could make a more solid arguement on how Microsoft and Nintendo made a stronger system.

Now, I'm not a tech head. Not by any means. I take things for what they are. Not by what they can do on paper. And I sure don't take to heart what somebody swears this thing can do on the internet (no offense to anybody here, talking about people around the internet that think they know everything about computers).

I'm trying not to fall into the hype of the gaming systems of the next generation. This goes for Nintendo, MS, or Sony. I've learned not to get my hopes up very much with games or systems. I've just learned that my imagination is far more advance then anything that can be produced. Not saying it never happens (I'm way hyped for TS:FP), but I try.

Null · 02-08-2005, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CamFu

Don't take this as I'm a PS hater... but we have all heard this before. Does anybody remember the hype around the EE? How great that thing was supposed to be: Toy Story 2 Graphics! Able to control Missles! Numbers blew everything out of the water! No gaming system would be able to compete with what the PS2 would be able to show!

It is now at the end of this generation of consoles, and we have truly seen what the PS2 can do. It wasn't a blow out, all 3 systems all had their own ups and downs with they could do. Anybody can agrue until they are blue in the face about how great the PS2 is (technology wise), but it did not have an upper hand on Nintendo or Microsoft. Actually, you could make a more solid arguement on how Microsoft and Nintendo made a stronger system.

Now, I'm not a tech head. Not by any means. I take things for what they are. Not by what they can do on paper. And I sure don't take to heart what somebody swears this thing can do on the internet (no offense to anybody here, talking about people around the internet that think they know everything about computers).

I'm trying not to fall into the hype of the gaming systems of the next generation. This goes for Nintendo, MS, or Sony. I've learned not to get my hopes up very much with games or systems. I've just learned that my imagination is far more advance then anything that can be produced. Not saying it never happens (I'm way hyped for TS:FP), but I try.

True, however i really dont see this as hype. this is just talking about the facts of what the processor is. Not how the PS3 will use it. i'd agree with you if in the artical they started talking about how good of graphics it can pull off and all that. but its just really explaining what the cell processor is.

even with PS2, they never hyped up the facts of the processor, they never lied about its speed and such, they just hyped up what the PS2 could do with that speed. same as all the consoles did.

Jonbo298 · 02-08-2005, 03:05 PM

If you want to hype how your console can do Toy Story 2 graphics, you better provide

CamFu · 02-08-2005, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Null

True, however i really dont see this as hype. this is just talking about the facts of what the processor is. Not how the PS3 will use it. i'd agree with you if in the artical they started talking about how good of graphics it can pull off and all that. but its just really explaining what the cell processor is.

even with PS2, they never hyped up the facts of the processor, they never lied about its speed and such, they just hyped up what the PS2 could do with that speed. same as all the consoles did.

This is how the whole "hype" thing starts. Sony claiming that they are going to be using this new processor that is able to achieve amazing things. Start throwing numbers out that doesn't even matter to the general public. Sony knows that to the general public Bigger Numbers = Better Machine.

I will agree that MS falls in the same catagory. That is how they got the Xbox out on the market.

Sony so used the ignorence of the General Public with the PS2. I won't say the they flat out lied about what the PS2 could do. But they sure showed their bells and whistles of the machines. Something that was rarely shown during this generation.

This is how I see Sony hyping their machine. With the whole "new technology" thing. With all the ooohs and aaahs that come with it. Same way Nintendo is trying to hype their Revolution.

So now the question comes in, right now the talk around the internet is that this new "Cell" technology is going to be used and they will be using the whole Blu-Ray disc. How much is thing going to cost them. What are they going to have to take a hit on. We all know that if they release all this "new" technology, it isn't going to be cheap. Are they going to go ahead and release it at about $400, and jump all game prices up to $60-$70 (as most experts say is going to be the cost of games in the future). Or are they going to try to release this machine in the $500+ area.

MuGen · 02-08-2005, 04:10 PM

If you read the article however they said the use of the CELL chip would be dramatically be cheaper then the utilization of any other chip. The Emotion Engine cost SONY a bunch of money to develop and engineer, however the article states that the development and the engineering of the Cell was far cheaper because of they way they approached it.

So I wouldn't say the PS3 will be cheap, but I wouldn't say they it's going to be expensive either. You cannot expect the next generation consoles to be cheap... I'm sure NONE of the 3 companies are planning a price below $350 for their new machines, but if they do... you can be sure I'll be picking one up.

Originally I planned to pick up the PS3 and the Revolution no matter what price they are, because I'm like that and I have a good job. So I'll be sticking to that plan, just because I don't like Microsoft(ware) being in the Gaming industry.

Anyway I'm not getting all hyped up about the new Cell chip, because I know that ballpark figures are always given when being asked about the technology. However the specs in the article seem realistic and they give no credit to the graphics capability of the PS3. They just state in the article that it will be used in Sony's PS3 and newer HD TV's.

Seeing through my whole rant, and getting straight to the point... The next next gen consoles (PS3, XBX2, and NREV) will NOT be cheap by any standards. The Motorola RAZR Is around $500...... and it's just a phone. The world is a changin and we must adhere and adapt to whatever comes. Who knows, maybe minimum wage will go up for many youngsters who want these systems. But the one thing we all know is that prices are going up... and it's for the good of the economy.

DeathsHand · 02-08-2005, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyuzo

I'm sure NONE of the 3 companies are planning a price below $350 for their new machines, but if they do... you can be sure I'll be picking one up.

... Why in the world do you say that? Nintendo would never price their console at the $350+ mark... And Sony/MS probably won't either...

Sounds to me like you're just kinda caught up in how much more powerful the new machines will be...

And anybody who jumps to conclusion about PS3 being the most powerful of the 3 upcoming consoles, IMO, is also just caught up in the hype... It's the first system to reveal it's specs, and it sounds so amazingly awesome, but chances are when Xbox2's graphics chip is revealed it'll be at least equally as impressive...

Although I also think that simply revealing the specs of the processor isn't as bad a kind of hype as "TOY STORY 2 GRAPHIXX!" "CONTROLS MISSLES!" is...

As for the issue of adding buttons to the PS3 controller, saying "Where would they go?" is rather silly... Supposidly they'll take advantage of new features of the PS3, and since we don't know what they are (if this is the case) then it's hard to say there's nowhere to go...

Not only that but for all we know they could be altering the entire design of the controller...

There are always places to "go"...