To those with both a DS and PSP...

MuGen · 03-30-2005, 03:22 AM

I just wish people would stop complaining about the price...

$250 is a value pack price, do not compare it to the DS which is the solo package.

Sure you don't need all thats in the value pack, but thats what the price point is for the value package. Discrediting the PSP or Sony for the price point and comparing it to the 180 DS is ridiculous.

In Japan they released the PSP units, individually at $185. Now what do you think is a better buy DS $180 or PSP $185? I'm sure North America will eventually get their Solo packages.

DarrenMcLeod · 03-30-2005, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Kyuzo

I just wish people would stop complaining about the price...

$250 is a value pack price, do not compare it to the DS which is the solo package.

Sure you don't need all thats in the value pack, but thats what the price point is for the value package. Discrediting the PSP or Sony for the price point and comparing it to the 180 DS is ridiculous.

In Japan they released the PSP units, individually at $185. Now what do you think is a better buy DS $180 or PSP $185? I'm sure North America will eventually get their Solo packages.

Where are you getting 180 for DS? It's 199 in Canada, and 150 in the states. Is that a launch price, or a store's bundle price?

And until there is a solo pack available in North America, the price point will be $250. And the price for DS will be $150. Plus, games for DS are (on average) 10 dollars cheaper (USD).

Whether you are willing to admit it or not, 100 dollars (150 in Canada) is a LOT of money, and price is an issue. I want to feel like I'm getting my money's worth when I buy a system. Rather than get a PSP with no games, I can get a DS and 3 games. That sounds pretty awesome to me as the consumer.

Battery life is also huge, because the main time I use a portable system is for road trips. If all I get is four hours of life out of a system, that's not very much at all for a lot of the travelling I do (mostly by car).

Canyarion · 03-30-2005, 06:16 AM

Danny, how bout Polarium for the DS? That sounds like right up your alley.

Null · 03-30-2005, 10:39 AM

I'm getting to be quite interested in Mercuy for psp, looks like a pretty cool puzzle type game.

and they're including the tilt sensor with the game last i heard.

price on psp, it has room to drop, but honestly, you get a lot more with it then when the DS package, so to me it feels like the extra money went into the extra things gotten with the package.

i've yet to hear anyone with a psp complain about batteries and yet to see any real issues with mine. went a couple days using it off and on and didnt get below 50% power. and for me thats using a handheld a lot. so i have no worries about future battery problems either.

MuGen · 03-30-2005, 12:08 PM

You had to raise the question about the games being $10 cheaper?

I'm sorry.... they may be cheaper, but have you SEEN the graphics on the PSP? I've had speculation, but ever since I actually played it....... no cmment

DarrenMcLeod · 03-30-2005, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyuzo

You had to raise the question about the games being $10 cheaper?

I'm sorry.... they may be cheaper, but have you SEEN the graphics on the PSP? I've had speculation, but ever since I actually played it....... no cmment

Again, I was talking about price point, not graphics.

I'm not a graphics whore. I really don't care too much what games look like as long as they are some good fun. Do I think that the PSP blows away DS in the graphics department? Hell yes. But it doesn't make PSP games any cheaper, and that extra 10 dollars on a handheld system goes a long way.

As far as the "value" bundle that Null was talking about, there's nothing in there that I want. It's all unnecessary for me, and therefore it's not a value deal for me.

IGN's head to head between the two seemed to be really good to me... here's a good quote:

"So in theory, the Nintendo DS is a better portable system but the PSP is the better all-around system. This seems like a fair enough assessment and the final word we'll stick with."

That's basically my feelings.

MuGen · 03-30-2005, 05:39 PM

I'm not saying anything about being a graphics whore. You're not trying to understand my point. I'm not talking about graphics either, but I'm using it as a factor in my debate.

You say it's a turn off because PSP games are $10 more, and it goes a long way in handheld systems. I say, the PSP games are more expensive because they have better graphics.

Having better graphics, in turn makes development costs higher, making it $10 more. That is my arguement. I'm trying to explain WHY they are $10 more or higher.

For you it may not be, but a lot of people see the Value Pack as a good value. Sure, you may not want or need anything that comes with it, but that's no reason to say it's not a value pack. It's called a Value Pack because it has a lot of VALUE inside. 32mb memory sticks are around $20, Spiderman2 is $20, Carrying case $20, Earbuds $10. Making the package $70 more then a solo pack (180+70 = $250)

Now if you were to buy all those (if you wanted) seperately..... you'd pay a lot more in taxes... there fore making it a VALUE PACK. It's like a McDonalds Value Meal....... no one needs Fries and a Drink... but it's good to just get one thing or order one thing and have a lot more.

Null · 03-30-2005, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DarrenMcLeod

As far as the "value" bundle that Null was talking about, there's nothing in there that I want. It's all unnecessary for me, and therefore it's not a value deal for me.

never said it was a deal for you, im simply stating that its not really overpriced because the extra money does goto something.'

so its not really too much money for a handheld. its that the package isnt right for you.