To those with both a DS and PSP...

[Null]

I'm getting to be quite interested in Mercuy for psp, looks like a pretty cool puzzle type game. and they're including the tilt sensor with the game last i heard.

price on psp, it has room to drop, but honestly, you get a lot more with it then when the DS package, so to me it feels like the extra money went into the extra things gotten with the package.

i've yet to hear anyone with a psp complain about batteries and yet to see any real issues with mine. went a couple days using it off and on and didnt get below 50% power. and for me thats using a handheld a lot. so i have no worries about future battery problems either.

[MuGen]

You had to raise the question about the games being $10 cheaper?

I'm sorry.... they may be cheaper, but have you SEEN the graphics on the PSP? I've had speculation, but ever since I actually played it....... no cmment

[DarrenMcLeod]

Originally Posted by Kyuzo

You had to raise the question about the games being $10 cheaper?

I'm sorry.... they may be cheaper, but have you SEEN the graphics on the PSP? I've had speculation, but ever since I actually played it....... no cmment

Again, I was talking about price point, not graphics.

I'm not a graphics whore. I really don't care too much what games look like as long as they are some good fun. Do I think that the PSP blows away DS in the graphics department? Hell yes. But it doesn't make PSP games any cheaper, and that extra 10 dollars on a handheld system goes a long way.

As far as the "value" bundle that Null was talking about, there's nothing in there that I want. It's all unnecessary for me, and therefore it's not a value deal for me.

IGN's head to head between the two seemed to be really good to me... here's a good quote:

"So in theory, the Nintendo DS is a better portable system but the PSP is the better all-around system. This seems like a fair enough assessment and the final word we'll stick with."

That's basically my feelings.

[MuGen]

I'm not saying anything about being a graphics whore. You're not trying to understand my point. I'm not talking about graphics either, but I'm using it as a factor in my debate.

You say it's a turn off because PSP games are $10 more, and it goes a long way in handheld systems. I say, the PSP games are more expensive because they have better graphics.

Having better graphics, in turn makes development costs higher, making it $10 more. That is my arguement. I'm trying to explain WHY they are $10 more or higher.

For you it may not be, but a lot of people see the Value Pack as a good value. Sure, you may not want or need anything that comes with it, but that's no reason to say it's not a value pack. It's called a Value Pack because it has a lot of VALUE inside. 32mb memory sticks are around $20, Spiderman2 is $20, Carrying case $20, Earbuds $10. Making the package $70 more then a solo pack (180+70 = $250)

Now if you were to buy all those (if you wanted) seperately..... you'd pay a lot more in taxes... there fore making it a VALUE PACK. It's like a McDonalds Value Meal....... no one needs Fries and a Drink... but it's good to just get one thing or order one thing and have a lot more.

[DarrenMcLeod]

Originally Posted by Kyuzo

I'm not saying anything about being a graphics whore. You're not trying to understand my point. I'm not talking about graphics either, but I'm using it as a factor in my debate.

You say it's a turn off because PSP games are $10 more, and it goes a long way in handheld systems. I say, the PSP games are more expensive because they have better graphics.

Having better graphics, in turn makes development costs higher, making it $10 more. That is my arguement. I'm trying to explain WHY they are $10 more or higher.

For you it may not be, but a lot of people see the Value Pack as a good value. Sure, you may not want or need anything that comes with it, but that's no reason to say it's not a value pack. It's called a Value Pack because it has a lot of VALUE inside. 32mb memory sticks are around $20, Spiderman2 is $20, Carrying case $20, Earbuds $10. Making the package $70 more then a solo pack (180+70 = $250)

Now if you were to buy all those (if you wanted) seperately..... you'd pay a lot more in taxes... there fore making it a VALUE PACK. It's like a McDonalds Value Meal....... no one needs Fries and a Drink... but it's good to just get one thing or order one thing and have a lot more.

Okay, I understand a bit more of what you're saying. I knew that graphics make the development costs higher and all that sort of stuff, but i thought you were just saying "well the games look nicer so they should cost better" or something stupid like that.

As far as the Value Pack, I realize that it is called a value pack because it offers some value. I just stated that for me, and a lot of other people, a true "value pack" would come with just the system, so that the extra 70 dollars could be put towards a game rather than headphones and Spiderman 2.

Originally Posted by Null

never said it was a deal for you, im simply stating that its not really overpriced because the extra money does goto something.'

so its not really too much money for a handheld. its that the package isnt right for you.

Yeah, I realize that and I'm sorry if it confused anyone... I was basing it from my standpoint of not needing these things.

[Perfect Stu]

I've now gotten the chance to sample each system, and it just seems as though the DS is a generation behind PSP. The audio and video is just so much better, it's like comparing N64 to Dreamcast or PS2 when it first came out.

Actually, I think first gen PSP titles are looking better than first gen PS2 titles...

[GameMaster]

Originally Posted by Perfect Stu

I've now gotten the chance to sample each system, and it just seems as though the DS is a generation behind PSP. The audio and video is just so much better, it's like comparing N64 to Dreamcast or PS2 when it first came out.

Actually, I think first gen PSP titles are looking better than first gen PS2 titles...

Lucky for Nintendo, that the DS was just a small side project meant to entice Nintendo fans while their next Gameboy is being developed. The DS was never meant to directly compete with PSP. That job is reserved for the next Gameboy. And when it's finally released, there's a good chance that PSP could be pwned to the max with the force of a 1000 earthquakes.

[Null]

Originally Posted by DarrenMcLeod

As far as the "value" bundle that Null was talking about, there's nothing in there that I want. It's all unnecessary for me, and therefore it's not a value deal for me.

never said it was a deal for you, im simply stating that its not really overpriced because the extra money does goto something.'

so its not really too much money for a handheld. its that the package isnt right for you.