No Revolution at E3 (time for a throat slitting...a rant)

[KillerGremlin]

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Nintendo is going to be out of the console business within the next two generations. Maybe three. MAYBE. Nintendo is so f*cking stupid, their tactics are moronic....here is this great company with loads of potential, and here they are sitting in hot water, again.

Unless of course the Revolution really is a revolution, and the controller is the greatest thing to grasp besides my wang. And Nintendo regains its third party support. Then I'll be blown away, and proven wrong, regarding Nintendo anyway, for the first time in a long while.

Still...playable Zelda demo at E3 and DS games....can't really ask for much more. And what with the new Microsoft and Sony consoles there, one really shouldn't be complaining. Not that it matters much to me, I doubt I'll be picking up a next-gen console, not for a while anyway.

Still, you can't force a revolution. I've stood by Nintendo for a while, and I've put up with a lot of their crap, and this move doesn't totally surprise me, but most anticipation leads to disapointment. *coughdoom3cough* *coughhalo2cough*

I just pity the poor Nintendo fans, especially the ones waiting with their wallets open, waiting to get a piece of the "revolutionary" revolution. Nintendo needs to get with the program, because they really only have one or two more punches left before they turn into Sega, or get bought out by big brother Sony or Microsoft.

[GameMaster]

This a good move for Nintendo. They haven't finished constructing the Revolution let alone the prototype. And since Nintendo is so powerful and admired, the DS is MORE than enough to keep PS3 and Xbox 360 at bay. In fact, I think its safe to say that if Project Revolution and DS were both present at this E3, tumbleweeds and the sound of crickets would be present at both the Playstation and Xbox stations.

Fellow gamers, take the path less traveled and see the innovation behind Nintendo's decision. An honorable company has turned down the flash of media and fame in order to bring a more satisfying and quality product to it loyal followers.

Sure, Microsoft's online system is likely to entertain for a year or two. And Sony's PS3 will appease those looking for some visual pleasure during a rainy day.

But can you look an adult in the eyes and tell them with a golden sincerity that in 18 years when you bring that system out of it's dusty box, that a smile a mile wide and flood of marvellous memories will resurface to your face, heart, and mind?

No. You can't.

And that's because these systems lack the one thing Nintendo places at the core of all it's systems; a heart.

GTA 4, Halo, San Andreas, Splinter Cell...these complex heaps of flashy code can never top the simple and pure joy of booting up the 1986 Legend of Zelda or Super Mario Bros.

If there is one fact of time that leaves no room for argument or speculation, it's that history repeats itself. The wonders and awe that NES blessed us with have been passed down from new console to new console.

Do not allow the clouds of temptation and deception that PS2 and Xbox have cast upon us to cause you to question your faith in the glorious light of Nintendo. The Gamecube was no less a wonder than its forefathers. Its shining asset, innovation, was largely tainted and rejected due to the illusions projected by competing consoles.

Graphics alone cannot serve as a foundation for games. Our more easily swayed gamers will realize this in the coming generation. As Sony and Microsoft continue to pump out their picturesque features, gamers will be left feeling hungry for something more. Something heartfelt. Something with a soul. Project Revolution will be the resolution to their empty voids. Gamers will once again join their hands together in unity under one sun. Competitors who desired nothing more than money and fame will be forced to retire in the shadows of shame and greed.

I look forward to joining together with all of you on this day of celebration as we welcome in our new shepherd, especially those who will finally be coming back home to rejoin the herd from which you strayed years ago.

[Stray_Bullet]

Originally Posted by GameMaster

GTA 4, Halo, San Andreas, Splinter Cell...these complex heaps of flashy code can never top the simple and pure joy of booting up the 1986 Legend of Zelda or Super Mario Bros.

If you like old games, play old games. New "old" games should not be made. New games should be made. A new Zelda will not be like the 1986 Zelda.

I'm sorry man... I've heard you say some crazy stuff, but I believe you're serious on this one. .

[DeathsHand]

Originally Posted by Stray_Bullet

If you like old games, play old games. New "old" games should not be made. New games should be made. A new Zelda will not be like the 1986 Zelda.

I'm sorry man... I've heard you say some crazy stuff, but I believe you're serious on this one. .

While the market should never be overrun with new games made to play like their oldschool counterparts, there should be room for one to pop up now and then...

Contra: Shattered Soldier, Gradius V... 2 good examples of how a game can still follow the simple oldschool gameplay with a nice facelift and still be a good, new experience... But they're really the only two I can think of that have been released recently... And they were both made by Konami

Anywho, Revolution not at E3... I think anyway you slice it, it's not positive for Nintendo or their anxious fans... Although I don't think it necesarily dooms Nintendo and their new console...

I think next-gen will go much like this one, but with Microsoft possibly taking quite a bit more of Sony's marketshare (in the US at least)... And Nintendo back in third with another console that will probably still be more successul than Xbox2 in Japan, and fans will eat up and enjoy...

[dropCGCF]

Originally Posted by GameMaster

And that's because these systems lack the one thing Nintendo places at the core of all it's systems; a heart.

Graphics alone cannot serve as a foundation for games.

Thank you.

[Canyarion]

I don't think Nintendo doesn't want to reveal it because they're afraid others might steal it, but because they haven't finished their concept. Possibly haven't even picked one, like some months ago.

[DarkMaster]

Originally Posted by GameMaster

And that's because these systems lack the one thing Nintendo places at the core of all it's systems; a heart.

What in the hell are you talking about? A "heart"? Is this suppose to be something that makes good games? Or do you have to invent a reason to continue worshipping a company?

You haven't even seen the new systems yet, and already you're praising Nintendo for next gen. You can't get anymore blind and biased than that.

Instead of trying to convert people to your idiotic Nintendo religion, how about you set an example and show that you are actually capable of a rational thought.

[Dark Samurai]

Well, one thing that I've learned from Nintendo is, Patience, and patience is what I and many other Nintendo loyalists have. I believe that if you cant wait, then go somewhere else, as I'm sure most of the posters here have...

[Null]

Originally Posted by Dark Samurai

Well, one thing that I've learned from Nintendo is, Patience, and patience is what I and many other Nintendo loyalists have. I believe that if you cant wait, then go somewhere else, as I'm sure most of the posters here have...

i agree that to love nintendo is to have patience. patience for promises that never come. they keep you waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting, and if what your waiting for ever does come. it something that has been out already for a while if you just opened your eyes and looked elsewhere.

[MuGen]

Originally Posted by Null

i agree that to love nintendo is to have patience. patience for promises that never come. they keep you waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting, and if what your waiting for ever does come. it something that has been out already for a while if you just opened your eyes and looked elsewhere.

I think the bottom line is that Nintendo loyalists fear change. Dark Samurai bought the Sony PSP and was surprised as to how much he played it and enjoyed it.

Loyalists will praise Nintendo and look forward to their promises of a revolution, and patiently wait. But it's also a bad habit, considering if some simple pleasures as gaming can be found elsewhere. They blame gamers for going elsewhere towards MS or Sony... but whose to blame? They got tired of waiting...

It's like waiting for one device, and others have one out that do the same thing, but waiting for that device because of it's brand. I admit, I found some enjoyment in the games I've played for the DS and the Gamecube, but that's me. Loyalists refuse to find any enjoyment in any other brand, because they pick at the top games of the month. PS2 and Xbox have a lot of great titles besides the top selling games, that are fun to play and not just picturesque.

No offense to Nintendo, but they are just going at this the wrong way. Iwata is insecure about his revolution concept and excuses that they might steal their ideas considering the PS3 and X360 are near completion and ready to be unveiled.

Sony has already indulged in their focused CELL processor and have already publicized it to the max.......... And Iwata thinks that his ideas will be stolen this late in the game?

Excuses... I see them as.... as most replies here agree.

[jeepnut]

Originally Posted by Kyuzo

No offense to Nintendo, but they are just going at this the wrong way. Iwata is insecure about his revolution concept and excuses that they might steal their ideas considering the PS3 and X360 are near completion and ready to be unveiled.

Sony has already indulged in their focused CELL processor and have already publicized it to the max.......... And Iwata thinks that his ideas will be stolen this late in the game?

Excuses... I see them as.... as most replies here agree.

Maybe Nintendo is waiting because they wish to steal ideas from Sony and MS. That would be the only valid reason to hide your console when the other two have pretty much been finalized. That or it's nowhere near ready yet.

[MuGen]

I would like nothing more than to join in on this parade. But I'm going to save it for when Nintendo actually DOES go out of business.

Nothing about their consoles or games are bad in a sense, but they truely are letting a lot of fans down by keeping the Revolution from an unveiling. Not only will they lose interest of fans, but they will lose hold as well.

I do believe Nintendo will resort to being just a handheld company. The only place Nintendo has a real strong hold of is Japan, because obviously their only competitor their is Sony.

But we live in NA and right now, Nintendo isn't doing a good job of anything really. Zelda games will always satisfy the Ningamer, but at some point HYPE is a good thing, and when you don't hype up your next-gen... people will turn to Xbox 360 and PS3....

Only a few people like GM and loyalists will follow Nintendo in their revelation, and it's not a bad thing... loyalty is always good, but Nintendo will slowly but surely lose a chunk of their fanbase, and only a few will remain only to be disappointed by what THEY call a Revolution of a console.

[Neo]

Originally Posted by GameMaster

And since Nintendo is so powerful and admired, the DS is MORE than enough to keep PS3 and Xbox 360 at bay.

I'm sorry, what was that? I got distracted by the giant cloud of crack smoke eminating from your direction.

[MuGen]

Originally Posted by GameMaster

And since Nintendo is so powerful and admired, the DS is MORE than enough to keep PS3 and Xbox 360 at bay.

I'm sorry but.... the DS isn't enough to keep even the PSP at bay...

[Dark Samurai]

Originally Posted by Kyuzo

I'm sorry but.... the DS isn't enough to keep even the PSP at bay...

Uhh no... Polarium own all... [/endfanboyism!]

To be honest I'm thinking of selling the PSP, just because it bores me now... (and that is not a fanboy statement...)