No Revolution at E3 (time for a throat slitting...a rant) - Page 2

MuGen · 04-20-2005, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Null

i agree that to love nintendo is to have patience. patience for promises that never come. they keep you waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting, and if what your waiting for ever does come. it something that has been out already for a while if you just opened your eyes and looked elsewhere.

I think the bottom line is that Nintendo loyalists fear change. Dark Samurai bought the Sony PSP and was surprised as to how much he played it and enjoyed it.

Loyalists will praise Nintendo and look forward to their promises of a revolution, and patiently wait. But it's also a bad habit, considering if some simple pleasures as gaming can be found elsewhere. They blame gamers for going elsewhere towards MS or Sony... but whose to blame? They got tired of waiting...

It's like waiting for one device, and others have one out that do the same thing, but waiting for that device because of it's brand. I admit, I found some enjoyment in the games I've played for the DS and the Gamecube, but that's me. Loyalists refuse to find any enjoyment in any other brand, because they pick at the top games of the month. PS2 and Xbox have a lot of great titles besides the top selling games, that are fun to play and not just picturesque.

No offense to Nintendo, but they are just going at this the wrong way. Iwata is insecure about his revolution concept and excuses that they might steal their ideas considering the PS3 and X360 are near completion and ready to be unveiled.

Sony has already indulged in their focused CELL processor and have already publicized it to the max.......... And Iwata thinks that his ideas will be stolen this late in the game?

Excuses... I see them as.... as most replies here agree.

Neo · 04-20-2005, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by GameMaster

And since Nintendo is so powerful and admired, the DS is MORE than enough to keep PS3 and Xbox 360 at bay.

I'm sorry, what was that? I got distracted by the giant cloud of crack smoke eminating from your direction.

MuGen · 04-20-2005, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by GameMaster

And since Nintendo is so powerful and admired, the DS is MORE than enough to keep PS3 and Xbox 360 at bay.

I'm sorry but.... the DS isn't enough to keep even the PSP at bay...

Dark Samurai · 04-20-2005, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyuzo

I'm sorry but.... the DS isn't enough to keep even the PSP at bay...

Uhh no... Polarium own all... [/endfanboyism!]

To be honest I'm thinking of selling the PSP, just because it bores me now... (and that is not a fanboy statement...)

jeepnut · 04-20-2005, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyuzo

No offense to Nintendo, but they are just going at this the wrong way. Iwata is insecure about his revolution concept and excuses that they might steal their ideas considering the PS3 and X360 are near completion and ready to be unveiled.

Sony has already indulged in their focused CELL processor and have already publicized it to the max.......... And Iwata thinks that his ideas will be stolen this late in the game?

Excuses... I see them as.... as most replies here agree.

Maybe Nintendo is waiting because they wish to steal ideas from Sony and MS. That would be the only valid reason to hide your console when the other two have pretty much been finalized. That or it's nowhere near ready yet.

Null · 04-20-2005, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jeepnut

Maybe Nintendo is waiting because they wish to steal ideas from Sony and MS. That would be the only valid reason to hide your console when the other two have pretty much been finalized. That or it's nowhere near ready yet.

this is very much a possibility, infact i've often wondered about that myself each console gen. Nintendo always hides thier stuff and waits. Perhaps they are trying to see what thier competitors have, then try to deal with it or make something they believe to be better after seeing thiers.

MuGen · 04-20-2005, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Samurai

To be honest I'm thinking of selling the PSP, just because it bores me now... (and that is not a fanboy statement...)

I can only see that as a fanboy statement. In light of the news and how everyone is reacting, your going to sell your only Sony product to show your loyalty.

I mean... I bought my PSP for the long haul, for portable gaming whenever I go somewhere and will always have new games coming out for it. I wouldn't waste my money and sell it just because you've played out the games you have for it.

Just like you said... you need patience correct? PSP has so many more games out there other than Untold, Dark, and Ridge, and THUG. I know many people who are addicted to Lumines and Mercury.

If you sell your PSP, cuz it's boring now, then you've lost all sight of what patience means... and the idea of hypocrisy has long since encumbered your senses.

Dark Samurai · 04-20-2005, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyuzo

I can only see that as a fanboy statement. In light of the news and how everyone is reacting, your going to sell your only Sony product to show your loyalty.

I mean... I bought my PSP for the long haul, for portable gaming whenever I go somewhere and will always have new games coming out for it. I wouldn't waste my money and sell it just because you've played out the games you have for it.

Just like you said... you need patience correct? PSP has so many more games out there other than Untold, Dark, and Ridge, and THUG. I know many people who are addicted to Lumines and Mercury.

If you sell your PSP, cuz it's boring now, then you've lost all sight of what patience means... and the idea of hypocrisy has long since encumbered your senses.

Most of those titles you mentioned, I have and beaten. I've played Lumines, and thought it was boring... Mercury looks promising but what other game than "GTA PSP" is there that will help out in this decision.

Besides my patience is with Nintendo, not Sony... Sony is just Hititandquitit for me...

MuGen · 04-20-2005, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Samurai

Most of those titles you mentioned, I have and beaten. I've played Lumines, and thought it was boring... Mercury looks promising but what other game than "GTA PSP" is there that will help out in this decision.

Besides my patience is with Nintendo, not Sony... Sony is just Hititandquitit for me...

Although that statement may seem funny at first... you shelled out $250 for that hardware... so do what you will with it.

in the end ... even if it is just Hit it and Quit it... you spent good money on it.

There are some products I've bought and only used once, but for the purpose of value... I keep it.

Dark Samurai · 04-20-2005, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyuzo

There are some products I've bought and only used once, but for the purpose of value... I keep it.

That is something that I can agree upon...

MuGen · 04-20-2005, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Samurai

That is something that I can agree upon...

So therefore your selling your PSP cuz you'ved played out THUG and Ridge?

Teuthida · 04-20-2005, 03:14 PM

It makes perfect sense now.

When I get a new idea for something I like to get it out there quick before someone else thinks it up, so it will be known that I was the originator of the idea (e.g. Kill Bullet Bill). Nintendo thinks the opposite way, and is probably afraid someone will not only copy it but make it better. So why not show Revolution after Microsoft and Sony already unveils theirs? TRACKBALL! They were gonna put a trackball on their controller but Microsoft went ahead a showed it first. Now they're scrambling, trying to create some new function that would appear revolutionary. Eh, probably not, but something like that could happen. It really makes no sense to withhold ideas and concepts, not without little hints. Even the ultra secret Segway project supplied hints...though no one guessed it would turn out how it did. Hype is a powerful marketing device. Nintendo is too backward to realize that. They rather strap a GameCube to some poor fool and have them demonstrate it on the street.

MuGen · 04-20-2005, 03:39 PM

I like that pun towards how they demo'ed the PSP on it's Metreon launch at the end of your paragraph there.

I agree with you 100%..... hype although underrated, plays a huge role in marketing.

NOW people who were looking forward to E3 for the NINREV will now look forward to the Ps3 and the X360, hearing this news.

The hype tide has turned.

Teuthida · 04-20-2005, 03:49 PM

Didn't know they did that for the PSP. Was referring to the whole Nintendo Street Team thing that I despise. And to advertise DS, rather than blanket cities in ads like PSP has done, they're just going to a few colleges to once again demostrate it.

MuGen · 04-20-2005, 03:53 PM

They are advertising the PSP to hell because they are targeting a wide array of people. I was watchin the Metreon Launch party for the PSP and they had girls, guys, men, women, old men, old women.... basically covering the gene pool.