Halo 3 parrying PlayStation 3 launch

KillerGremlin · 05-15-2005, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Xantar

Microsoft could also unveil new services at the PS3 launch. Something like a new feature in Xbox Live or something. There's nothing that can stop the PS3 steamroller, but Halo 3 isn't necessarily the only or the best countermove Microsoft has. If nothing else, I'm really not sure how excited people will get about yet another Halo game just two years after the last one unless it adds something really new.

Did you see the end of Halo 2? Since when did a game being unfinished prevent Microsoft from releasing it?

Ughhh....don't remind me. I almost threw the controler through the TV.

Swan · 05-15-2005, 08:12 PM

I don't really see why Bill Gates sees this as a major move in destroying the PS3. If someone was going to go to the shop and buy, saw Halo 3 there, they will go for the PS3. If it was set at the same time as a big game it would be different. How often do you hear of someone going to buy a console, and coming back with one game?

Bond · 05-15-2005, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by deejzguy

I don't really see why Bill Gates sees this as a major move in destroying the PS3. If someone was going to go to the shop and buy, saw Halo 3 there, they will go for the PS3. If it was set at the same time as a big game it would be different. How often do you hear of someone going to buy a console, and coming back with one game?

I don't believe Bill Gates ever said that Halo 3 would destroy the Playstation 3. Releasing Halo 3 on the same day or around the launch of the Playstation 3 is simply a good counterattack. It's a lot better than doing nothing, no?

And I'm sure Bill Gates will save the release of a meaningless peripheral or something for the launch of Revolution.

MuGen · 05-15-2005, 08:26 PM

Right now, releasing Halo 3 in correspondance with PS3 doesn't even seem like a move at all. Considering you have 80 million PS2 owners eagerly awaiting the release of PS3... give or take a few thousand people who may spring for an Xbox 360 this generation.

A game to counter attack a console launch, almost seems like desperation than a counter attack. Some how I see Forza 360 releasing when GT5 releases for their respective next-gen consoles.

But come on... Halo 3 cannot possibly even put a dent in PS3's launch. Though many of you want to think so...

Assume PS3 launches at $299. 80 million (maybe even 75 million) PS2 lovers will save upthe money towards the launch. At launch day they come in with $400 to get themselves started. A guy goes in and sees Halo 3 on the same day.... Given the prediction that games of next-gen will be maybe $10 more.... Would he spend $60 on Halo 3......NO....... He has saved up for this moment, and if he buys Halo 3... he won't have enough to buy one game for the PS3...he'd be stuck with just a PS3.

Millions of people are saving up at this moment for their own PS3. None if not 1... will go into the store with money for the PS3 and some games, and be swayed by Halo 3.

Games counter games.... not consoles... think about how much credit your actually giving Halo..

Ginkasa · 05-15-2005, 09:04 PM

This move isn't supposed to be some giant, genius maneuver to vanquish the PS3 or anything. All it is is a way to remind people the X360 is still around. No, its not original. Yeah, the effect will probably be miniscule. Its not that big of a deal.

And Kyuzo, anything Gates hopes ot accomplish with this concurrent release will not be aimed at avid PS fans who have been saving up for "this moment." Gates is probably aiming more towards the casual gamers who may actually *gasp* choose Halo 3 over a PS3 game. And like I said before, its probably not going to do a whole lot. The people who want a PS3 will buy a PS3. The people who want Halo 3 will buy Halo 3. Some people will buy both. No big deal.

/me shrugs and walks away

BreakABone · 05-15-2005, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyuzo

Right now, releasing Halo 3 in correspondance with PS3 doesn't even seem like a move at all. Considering you have 80 million PS2 owners eagerly awaiting the release of PS3... give or take a few thousand people who may spring for an Xbox 360 this generation.

A game to counter attack a console launch, almost seems like desperation than a counter attack. Some how I see Forza 360 releasing when GT5 releases for their respective next-gen consoles.

But come on... Halo 3 cannot possibly even put a dent in PS3's launch. Though many of you want to think so...

Assume PS3 launches at $299. 80 million (maybe even 75 million) PS2 lovers will save upthe money towards the launch. At launch day they come in with $400 to get themselves started. A guy goes in and sees Halo 3 on the same day.... Given the prediction that games of next-gen will be maybe $10 more.... Would he spend $60 on Halo 3......NO....... He has saved up for this moment, and if he buys Halo 3... he won't have enough to buy one game for the PS3...he'd be stuck with just a PS3.

Millions of people are saving up at this moment for their own PS3. None if not 1... will go into the store with money for the PS3 and some games, and be swayed by Halo 3.

Games counter games.... not consoles... think about how much credit your actually giving Halo..

Ok that was pretty stupid no offense.

First off, all 80 million (or 75 million) will buy the console opening day. I doubt even a handful of them are saving up for a console that doesn't release for another year and we still don't know all the facts.

And if push comes to shove and you owe a X360 and go in there on launch day of Halo 3 and see the Ps3.. would you rather buy Halo 3 and maybe several other games or a new system entirely with like one game.. its not an easy decision for everyone.

And to be fair to MicroSoft, Halo 3 is the biggest weapon they have in their arsenal behind the head start, it is a wise idea to release it around the PS3 launch. As it reminds people the system is there, but also gives new customers a reason to pick up an X360.

Will the move work? Historically it hasn't done too much damage, but who can predict these things nowadays.

MuGen · 05-16-2005, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by BreakABone

Ok that was pretty stupid no offense.

good one... How about "That was idiotic.. and I don't mean to be rude.."

BreakABone · 05-16-2005, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Kyuzo

good one... How about "That was idiotic.. and I don't mean to be rude.."

Well, I could just say.. it was stupid.. and you are an idiot for writing it.. but I'm trying to play nice here.

DarrenMcLeod · 05-15-2005, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyuzo

Right now, releasing Halo 3 in correspondance with PS3 doesn't even seem like a move at all. Considering you have 80 million PS2 owners eagerly awaiting the release of PS3... give or take a few thousand people who may spring for an Xbox 360 this generation.

A game to counter attack a console launch, almost seems like desperation than a counter attack. Some how I see Forza 360 releasing when GT5 releases for their respective next-gen consoles.

But come on... Halo 3 cannot possibly even put a dent in PS3's launch. Though many of you want to think so...

Assume PS3 launches at $299. 80 million (maybe even 75 million) PS2 lovers will save upthe money towards the launch. At launch day they come in with $400 to get themselves started. A guy goes in and sees Halo 3 on the same day.... Given the prediction that games of next-gen will be maybe $10 more.... Would he spend $60 on Halo 3......NO....... He has saved up for this moment, and if he buys Halo 3... he won't have enough to buy one game for the PS3...he'd be stuck with just a PS3.

Millions of people are saving up at this moment for their own PS3. None if not 1... will go into the store with money for the PS3 and some games, and be swayed by Halo 3.

Games counter games.... not consoles... think about how much credit your actually giving Halo..

80 million PS2 owners are not eagerly awaiting PS3. Subtract a LOT of those consoles on systems that have broken down and the person either rebought or didn't buy, a lot that are collecting dust like all systems, and a lot of people that bought it because they wanted a DVD player.

I wasn't saying that people are going to go in to buy PS3 and leave with Halo 3. But to say it won't put a dent in the celebrations is just ridiculous. Halo 2 sold ridiculously well at launch, and I'm quite sure Halo 3 is going to hit the casual gaming market and the hardcore gaming market very successfully. People will be able to think "Man, PS3 is out, with a few launch titles... but that XBox 360 already has a bunch of titles... and OH MAN HALO 3 IS COMING OUT THE SAME DAY?!?!"

Perfect Stu · 05-16-2005, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DarrenMcLeod

80 million PS2 owners are not eagerly awaiting PS3. Subtract a LOT of those consoles on systems that have broken down and the person either rebought or didn't buy, a lot that are collecting dust like all systems, and a lot of people that bought it because they wanted a DVD player.

haha, oh dear.

PS2 has sold 87 million units...and yes, there are a lot less than 87 PS2 owners. But if you honestly think the number is anywhere near, say, 55-60 million, you're out of your mind.

but, you did make a point and I agree. just doubt it's to the same extent as yourself.

needless to say, a lot of people will be looking forward to the launch of the PS3. as long as Sony keeps doing what they're doing, I'll be one of them.

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and kyuzo, I thought your post was pretty ridiculous

MuGen · 05-16-2005, 01:23 AM

Well instead of trying to understand my post, it's being looked at as Fanboyish....

My point was that if there are Halo loyalists and Sony loyalists, then releasing Halo 3 along with PS3 does nothing. Because the respective loyalists will stick to whatever they were either waiting for, or want.

This justifies my statement that you can't suggest that Halo 3 will have an impact on PS3... because Sony loyalists don't care about Halo 3...and Microsoft loyalists don't care about PS3. So whose to say this move by Bill Gates is smart.. or stupid?

NO ONE.......... All I can say is that they both have their respective fans, and both will get their substantial amount of sales in the market...