Nintendo Press Conference - Page 8

DarrenMcLeod · 05-17-2005, 07:59 PM

Nintendo was stupid for saying 2-3 times more powerful than GameCube. They always understate things, and I bet you won't be able to tell the difference between Rev and Xbox 360.

Kyuzo - I don't understand you coming in and bashing Nintendo in every way you can. Xbox 360 wasn't revealed last year, and it will be released later this year, and yet you don't bash them for it. By the time PS3 is released, Revolution will have already been unveiled, and so they will be on an even playing field. Revealing this early does nothing for Sony other than create hype that is too early for preorders anyways.

People aren't going to start lining up to pre-order the PS3 because Sony overspeculates their system's power while Nintendo underdescribes theirs. The difference in graphics will not be that great.

Am I disapointed there wasn't much shown? Hell yeah, but it was expected, and showing anything this year was only Sony trying to convince gamers not to buy an XBox 360.

One Winged Angel · 05-17-2005, 08:10 PM

At this point, the difference in graphics is not going to be phenominal. I'm more amused by the fact you'll be able to download old games from NES, SNES, N64 and the GC (assuming its free).

btw, the other systems look uglier.

DeathsHand · 05-17-2005, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarrenMcLeod

Kyuzo - I don't understand you coming in and bashing Nintendo in every way you can. Xbox 360 wasn't revealed last year, and it will be released later this year, and yet you don't bash them for it. By the time PS3 is released, Revolution will have already been unveiled, and so they will be on an even playing field. Revealing this early does nothing for Sony other than create hype that is too early for preorders anyways.

People aren't going to start lining up to pre-order the PS3 because Sony overspeculates their system's power while Nintendo underdescribes theirs. The difference in graphics will not be that great.

While I agree Sony's graphical capabilities seem a bit overrated, they maybe not as overrated as some people are thinking... I can definately see how Killzone 2 isn't gonna happen in the actual game... maybe the GRAPHICS will look that good, however half of what makes that video so amazing is all the activity on the screen at once... And not just the activity in general, all the unique, situation-specific activity going on... It's basically too scripted to be 100% believable...

As for Revolution, I think the graphics will be good enough... Maybe every bit as good as PS3... But we can't be sure yet... As much as that will be the focus for a lot of people's initial reaction, I'm more interested in them finally letting the dern cat out of the bag about the controller... I mean it's supposed to be so amazing... But with all this talk of uber-backwards-compatibility, it can't be TOO different because it would make playing those existing games way too awkward.... Although they could easily release a special CLASSIXXX controller for a bit of extra cash...

As for getting a head start, getting a head start on hype always helps...

If you get people talking early, they get their mind set on buying the PS3... And when they've had their mind set on buying the PS3 for so long, it's less likely that, no matter how amazing the revolution's true revealing might be, people will suddenly pull a 360 (GET IT!? HAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) and buy a Revolution...

But again, nobody can be sure until it's released and we hear the public's reaction

And one last note, on the super compatilbility download NES/SNES/N64 games...

First off, if it's ONLY Nintendo's games, as good as they are, that's lame (I think I've said that before maybe)... Second, assuming it's all games (or at least all the major ones), I'm hoping they don't do something like say... "Well if you wanna buy Chrono Trigger used, you're gonna have to shell out around 50 bucks... So we can sell a downloadable version for saaaaay 29.99!"... But instead go for an approach of a set fee... Maybe NES games a buck, SNES games 1 or 2... N64 games maybe as much as 5... With prices varying in certain situations...

But you get the idea... If Nintendo tries to rip a hole in people's pockets with these emulated versions of old games, that'll be beyond a ripoff, and a crying shame... They're not making ANY money on those games currently anyways...

bobcat · 05-17-2005, 10:04 PM

Kyuzo, one of your most annoying habits is pointing out the obvious 100 times over.......

Yes we know the conference was disappointing, and I normally expect this from Nintendo anyway so my expectations were not high in the first place. I still enjoy their games and I still can't wait to see what they have to offer, but by now I have learnt that Nintendo don't compete very well with the other consoles. They do things their own way, which sometimes really hurts them, but I enjoy their games and can't wait to get more info on the revolution.

Teuthida · 05-17-2005, 10:09 PM

THURSDAY

DarrenMcLeod · 05-17-2005, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeathsHand

As for Revolution, I think the graphics will be good enough... Maybe every bit as good as PS3... But we can't be sure yet... As much as that will be the focus for a lot of people's initial reaction, I'm more interested in them finally letting the dern cat out of the bag about the controller... I mean it's supposed to be so amazing... But with all this talk of uber-backwards-compatibility, it can't be TOO different because it would make playing those existing games way too awkward.... Although they could easily release a special CLASSIXXX controller for a bit of extra cash...

I don't think the PS3's capabilites are super overhyped. I just remember Sony telling numbers about 70 million polygons a second and Toy Story rendered in real time for PS2, and that never happened. We know they like to BS a little with their ideas, that's all. I don't think Revolution's graphics will be as good as PS3, buy Kyuzo is making it sound like they are ging to be the difference between N64 and PS2. They won't. It'll be the difference of PS2 and XBox, if that. The further we go into these games the less of a difference you can notice.

Neo · 05-17-2005, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danchastu

THURSDAY

The video at nintendo.com hinted something big is going down on Thursday. That is according to the people who saw it before they took it off.

Neo · 05-17-2005, 10:26 PM

from ign:

Aries said that Nintendo's conference would be a letdown but that they had a BIG surprise, and kept referring to the 19th.

-matt says this aries is fake, but just after that
-all the aries predictions have come true...
-then again aries' IP is from bank of america, a bank as in "the game" movie, which aries told us to watch.
-Matt posted that infamous "hot or not" pic in the rev board when prime3 is going to be a GC game.
-Aries predicted nintendo's conference was going to be weak on purpouse.
-there are this strange videos at nintedo.com
-there is a secret booth called "club revolution".
-Pics from ign supposedly apeared on a no-name site.
-There is a NINTENDO NOW advertisement at the new nintendo.com and a weird background.
-IGN has been pretty quiet after nintendo's conference.
-Everybody is waitint the 19th...

The fact that this video was at nintendo.com with nintendo execs makes it credible. SOMETHING BIG is going to happen. I'd say either Mario128 or the Revolution controller.

Crash · 05-17-2005, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neo

from ign:

Aries said that Nintendo's conference would be a letdown but that they had a BIG surprise, and kept referring to the 19th.

-matt says this aries is fake, but just after that
-all the aries predictions have come true...
-then again aries' IP is from bank of america, a bank as in "the game" movie, which aries told us to watch.
-Matt posted that infamous "hot or not" pic in the rev board when prime3 is going to be a GC game.
-Aries predicted nintendo's conference was going to be weak on purpouse.
-there are this strange videos at nintedo.com
-there is a secret booth called "club revolution".
-Pics from ign supposedly apeared on a no-name site.
-There is a NINTENDO NOW advertisement at the new nintendo.com and a weird background.
-IGN has been pretty quiet after nintendo's conference.
-Everybody is waitint the 19th...

The fact that this video was at nintendo.com with nintendo execs makes it credible. SOMETHING BIG is going to happen. I'd say either Mario128 or the Revolution controller.

what is everyone talking about? I love bees kinda thing with the revolution? I see that thing on nintendo's site, what the hell is nintendo now?

DeathsHand · 05-17-2005, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarrenMcLeod

I just remember Sony telling numbers about 70 million polygons a second and Toy Story rendered in real time for PS2, and that never happened.

Yeah, these PS3 demos did bring up suspicions based on PS2's unveiling and tech-demos, and how it never fully lived up to the hype... But a girl can still dream!

I mean we all know that the numbers show that PS3 is increeeedibly powerful... The problem is, Xbox360 has a fairly lackluster showing (of games which I've heard were actually running on things that represent only about half of the 360s full power), then PS3 blows everyone's socks off with these amazing demos and claims, and people scream "That can't be real!"...

So basically right now it's a matter of having faith and adopting a wait and see approach...

Even if those tech demos are to PS3 as PS2's were to... PS2... I still think this generation's graphical leap will be much bigger than some people were expecting (and recently doubting based on Xbox 360s 'Xbox 1.5' showing)...

Jeez, my posts are getting longer... Reminds me of back in the day... PS2 vs. Dolphin! Xbox roflmao it's just a glorified PC!!!

It's good to be getting back into all that excitement again (^-^

Edit: Now Neo's got me damn excited... I hope this isn't a let down...

I'm hoping for a more in-depth revealing of the Revolution... It's controller perhaps... I thought that the way Iwata (or whoever it was) brought up the controller, but then said "Which we will be showing you... sometime later" or something like that seemed a tad suspicious if you ask me... He chuckled as people sorta sighed in dissapointment...

E3 tends to be very top-heavy... Starts off with a bang, goes out with very few details... I think it'd be quite rad if Nintendo got people's hopes down, then bam left the show with a bang...

Crash · 05-17-2005, 10:34 PM

And does anyone know if Advanced Wars:Gamecube version got turned into Battalion whatever?

MuGen · 05-17-2005, 10:34 PM

Uhmmm... Stop overreacting... if you know yourself the Nintendo conference was disappointing, then it shouldn't tick you off SO MUCH when others say it.

And If I'm bashing any system it's the Xbox 360. The only thing I was bashing was Nintendo's conference, and not their Revolution or anything else. I actually have high hopes for Nintendo's revolution. But if you haven't noticed already... I'm a Sony fanboy... so get used to it. You've all gotten used to Crash' antics and GameMasters' antics...... but you guys don't seem to get used to mine, and you have to point out my vices all the time.

Either ignore me or get used to me.... I'm a fanboy and I'm pretty sure everyone else is here too, but I have a very conspicious way of showing it.

Like I said, I'm excited about the Revolution from what I've seen, but I was disappointed in their showing.... who the hell cares if I say that more than once? The conference was disappointing, the conference was disappointing.... If it bothers you so much ignore it...

I dunno what the big deal here is...

Do I complain about you guys constantly bashing the PS3 controller? No...

EDIT: The thing about the demos and footage of the games that was shown at the Conference is that they were being run on the PS3 itself. It maybe wasn't the actual game, but it shows the PS3 is capable of rendering those kind of graphics. Right now, I believe what they showed is what we're gonna get.... The only thing I expect to change is the design abit and the controller abit.

Crash · 05-17-2005, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyuzo

Uhmmm... Stop overreacting... if you know yourself the Nintendo conference was disappointing, then it shouldn't tick you off SO MUCH when others say it.

And If I'm bashing any system it's the Xbox 360. The only thing I was bashing was Nintendo's conference, and not their Revolution or anything else. I actually have high hopes for Nintendo's revolution. But if you haven't noticed already... I'm a Sony fanboy... so get used to it. You've all gotten used to Crash' antics and GameMasters' antics...... but you guys don't seem to get used to mine, and you have to point out my vices all the time.

Either ignore me or get used to me.... I'm a fanboy and I'm pretty sure everyone else is here too, but I have a very conspicious way of showing it.

Like I said, I'm excited about the Revolution from what I've seen, but I was disappointed in their showing.... who the hell cares if I say that more than once? The conference was disappointing, the conference was disappointing.... If it bothers you so much ignore it...

I dunno what the big deal here is...

Do I complain about you guys constantly bashing the PS3 controller? No...

EDIT: The thing about the demos and footage of the games that was shown at the Conference is that they were being run on the PS3 itself. It maybe wasn't the actual game, but it shows the PS3 is capable of rendering those kind of graphics. Right now, I believe what they showed is what we're gonna get.... The only thing I expect to change is the design abit and the controller abit.

I'm used to you.. I think Kyuzo is a good balance to GM and Me. Leave Kyuzo to his PSGrill and everyone will be happy

Teuthida · 05-17-2005, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crash

And does anyone know if Advanced Wars:Gamecube version got turned into Battalion whatever?

Yeah it did.

Thursday

MuGen · 05-17-2005, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crash

I'm used to you.. I think Kyuzo is a good balance to GM and Me. Leave Kyuzo to his PSGrill and everyone will be happy

Thanks Man... I'll leave you alone with whatever you do... considering half the time your with MicroShaft and half the time your with Nintendo...

I'll just say your against Sony... LOL

Anyways... I'm glad we can all be fanboys alike and still get along