Intel Inside... Macs

gekko · 06-06-2005, 03:07 PM

No, Apple still has complete control over the hardware, just now instead of including G5 chips, they will include Intel chips. Not sure if intel will make custom Mac chips, or if Apple will just use the existing chip they have at the time. If it was possible to just install it on a PC, they could've done it the last 5 years, and Mac OS X would've run fine.

However, this could make Windows to Mac ports a lot smoother. We'll see.

gekko · 06-06-2005, 03:18 PM

Wow, interesting turn of events.

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After Jobs' presentation, Apple Senior Vice President Phil Schiller addressed the issue of running Windows on Macs, saying there are no plans to sell or support Windows on an Intel-based Mac. "That doesn't preclude someone from running it on a Mac. They probably will," he said. "We won't do anything to preclude that."

However, Schiller said the company does not plan to let people run Mac OS X on other computer makers' hardware. "We will not allow running Mac OS X on anything other than an Apple Mac."

Windows on a Mac may be a possibility. Interesting.

X86 has not been mentioned in any way, shape, or form. Due to its horrible 64-bit support, it's doubtful that it will be the processor of choice for Apple. But then Intel decided to announce quad-core processors for Q1 2006. Coincidence?

And give Apple a round of applause. They have been planning this for 5 years, before the G5 was even out, and yet they managed it to be kept a complete secret, until now.

thatmariolover · 06-06-2005, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by gekko

No, Apple still has complete control over the hardware, just now instead of including G5 chips, they will include Intel chips. Not sure if intel will make custom Mac chips, or if Apple will just use the existing chip they have at the time. If it was possible to just install it on a PC, they could've done it the last 5 years, and Mac OS X would've run fine.

However, this could make Windows to Mac ports a lot smoother. We'll see.

I guess I'll have to read more before I fully understand it then. Because it states that they have it running on a 3.6GHZ P4 right now, and they're making that dev kit available. So I guess what confuses me: what makes it incompatible with current PC's if it's compiled for x86 processors. What decides what's compatible with what?

gekko · 06-06-2005, 03:22 PM

It was running on a PowerMac with a Pentium 4 inside it.

The BIOS, motherboard, RAM, drivers, I/O, and everything else is incompatible.

thatmariolover · 06-06-2005, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by gekko

It was running on a PowerMac with a Pentium 4 inside it.

The BIOS, motherboard, RAM, drivers, I/O, and everything else is incompatible.

Right, but they're saying that there'll be a way to get Windows on their Macs. I guess I'm just under the assumption that somebody will do the same for Mac OS on PC. They're going to be facing the same obstacles. Just the other way around.

gekko · 06-06-2005, 06:10 PM

No, Windows has support for a wide-array of hardware. Mac OS X doesn't, and I'm sure Apple went out of their way to ensure that Mac OS X can't run on anything but their hardware.

Keep in mind, this changes nothing. It's been 5 years and they still haven't done it.