Final Fantasy VII on PS3

[Xantar]

Just so you know, REmake sold 500,000 copies. That's not bad all told, but it's not that good either. I never said a Final Fantasy VII remake would sell horribly, but by the standards of Final Fantasy games, which normally sell a million copies in Japan alone, it's not going to do that well. And besides that, I really think that all the Final Fantasy VII spin-offs and licenses are a bad idea. Even if they're in different genres or whatever, it's too much cashing in too fast. Even the biggest Squaresoft freaks I know have decided that the company has lost its creativity. After all, there was a time when Squaresoft didn't need to do this kind of rehashing. You may not hate the idea, you may even be planning to buy all the games, but there's nobody who has been fooled into thinking that this is anything other than a cynical ploy to get some cheap revenue. Honestly, would it be the end of the world for you if there was never a remake?

Where does it end? At the rate things are going, if all three of these new spin-off games sell well (which I'm not certain all of them will), Squaresoft will be encouraged to make even more Final Fantasy VII spin-offs. At some point, even if they're all different genres and have new levels or whatever, people are going to get tired of it.

I also wish that you all would stop telling me about how many people you know who would buy this game as if that actually means anything. I can tell you that half of the people I know who liked Final Fantasy VII don't plan to buy the remake and don't like the idea and it would be true. Hell, I could tell you that I personally know a few hundred people who would line up in stores to purchase a game that was written entrely in Vietnamese. Does that mean making a Vietnamese language game is going to be a good idea? When companies go around making decision like this, they do some market research. They don't go around asking some of their personal friends whether they would buy the new game. So stop thinking that your opinions and the opinions of the people you know means anything about the world at large. I certainly don't. What I do have is the history of remakes which demonstrates that such games are lucky if they can manage a million units sold worldwide.

In the short term, it certainly won't hurt Square-Enix to release a graphically updated version of Final Fantasy VII, but I guarantee that they are quickly reaching the point where people just aren't going to keep buying because they want something new. That's bad for the long term. If Square-Enix wanted to do this properly, it wouldn't kill them to wait three or four years in between each game. Nintendo, among others, has demonstrated that you can keep a franchise going forever that way. As it is now, I will be seriously surprised if Square-Enix even announces a Final Fantasy VII game or spin-off for the PS4. The cash cow just doesn't stretch that far.

[Canyarion]

Well I agree that they're milking it a bit too much. Their fans said 'FFVII is the best' and after a while they came up with all these extra FFVII things.

You won't hear people complain, like you don't hear them complain about every new Pokémon game, but it's not the path they should take.

To support Xantar a bit more on this:

Originally Posted by Happydude

everybody i know who has played FFVII and liked it want's to buy the graphic remake when it comes out....and that's quite a lot of people.

So you KNOW 'quite a lot of people' who would buy it, or you assume there are quite a lot of people that would, because you know a couple that will??

[MuGen]

The point isn't that a lot of people would jump in line to buy this game. The point is that FFVII may be undergoing a makeover in terms of graphics. That was the point of discussion, and you guys are jumping to conclusions and all of a sudden creating implications that the company is making a mistake, and that it either won't sell as much or won't sell at all. Every franchise has it's cult following and it's been proven. No matter how re-hashed a game is, there will be people out there who are willing to buy it or who really want to play it.

There was no original arguement about how many copies this will sell or not, that point came straight from your a$$ Xantar. MY point is that I know a lot of fans out there who wouldn't mind seeing a re-polished FFVII, whether it be forum followers or gamers I game with. You have no ground to discredit anyone. What you're doing is like going to a website you hate just to curse it off on it's tagboard.... wasting your time.

People will think this is a great idea and people will look forward to it. Then there are those who don't really care too much for it, or don't think it's really a big deal, nor do they think it's good move on Squeenix's part. But I'm one of those people who are looking forward to it, and I don't need you trying to super impose your thoughts about Square's market strategies on me. You talk in your posts about market strategies and Square enix as if you know what is happening behind closed doors.

We don't know if Square looked at all the fans and gave in to their letters, or if Square is just rehashing it for more money. One thing is for sure... .for a tech demo, the FFVII footage at the Sony Press Conference got the audience's blood pumping again. The point is not to play the game again with just upgraded graphics. It's to EXPERIENCE IT once again, with nice visuals and upgrades. You might not think so, but there is a difference between playing a game again and experiencing it again.

Curiosity lingers within all of us, whether it be strong or weak. The curiosity of seeing how they could present the world of FFVII in next-gen graphics interests me.. and thats that.

[Jonbo298]

Never liked FF games, dont expect me to get excited about this one

[MuGen]

Originally Posted by Jonbo298

Never liked FF games, dont expect me to get excited about this one

Never do!

[Jonbo298]

o_O

[Xantar]

Poor Jerry Falwell is blowing his top. What exactly did you expect to get in this thread? Twenty replies saying, "OMG that's going to be so sweet!" and nothing more? I'm not even the first person to come in here to say that this is a bad idea.

I'm sorry that I ruined your perfect little Squaresoft lovefest, but the point of a discussion thread is to discuss something. And if you really want me to adhere to your precious "point" so much, I'll lay it out for you again as I originally said it: I wouldn't want Squaresoft doing this if I was a fan of Final Fantasy VII. It has nothing to do with the fact that I don't actually think FF VII is that great of a game. I would also tell you that I would not want Nintendo creating a graphical update of The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time and releasing it on the Revolution even though I am a huge Zelda fan and think that Ocarina of Time is perhaps the greatest game ever made. The reason is simple. It's bad business, and it cheapens the franchise. I wouldn't want that happening to something I love.

It's not that hard to understand, and it's not even that far from your topic. You're free to disagree with me and dispute what I say. I'm not trying to force my opinions on anyone. I'm just stating them, and the fact that you're acting so defensively does not say much about your confidence. If you were really confident in your faith in the greatness of an FF VII remake, you wouldn't even conceive of the idea that I'm trying to force my ideas on anyone. Certainly I have never once in here thought that you were trying to force your ideas on me.

In any case, backing up into your corner and whining about how I've moved into a new topic or created some new point doesn't do anything for you. It's a little ironic watching you tell me that my posts are pointless anyway. If you don't actually have a response to what I'm saying, the least you can do is tell me that you don't care and that you're buying the game anyway. It's not as if I would have a problem with that. I never told you to boycott the game, did I?