Epic VP slams Rev and others

GameMaster · 10-27-2005, 05:14 PM

I typically don't applaud such strong opinions and such is this case for this guy's. If he can tone it down a little and make it more general, then maybe I'd agree with it.

I would be upset if all of the Project Revolution's games were based around the new controller scheme. I don't want to move my hands much more than I do now.

MuGen · 10-27-2005, 09:29 PM

Simmer...simmer...... ok... now that we're simmered...

At times in that statement it seemed like he was kissing Iwata's ass...

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"Nintendo, you know, is going to make amazing games. I mean that's a given."

Then he continues to bash Nintendo's market strategy w/ All about the controller. I think he has a general point though...

Although developers could spend their precious time making great games... they will be spending their time on figuring out how to play around this new controller... which works against Nintendo...And the games will more or less play around the controller rather then the game itself.... I'm not bashing the Rev's controller, rather I'm simmering down his arguments and making them rational.

He's basically saying that theres nothing wrong with sticking with the basic Xbox 360 layout, PS2 controller layout (Hence the "ps3's controller is ugly'' statement).

My Opinion The Rev controller can prove to be a really cool controller to play with. But as seasoned a gamer as I am... I really have no time to be fooling around with button layouts and getting used to another layout. I'd rather plug in my traditional X, O, [], ^ layout and playing the game. Same goes with the 360 controller...

With the new revolution controller... the console no longer becomes ''plug-n-play'' in a retrospect... you now need to get used to the layout and then get good at it. I will be giving it a shot next-generation however.... I will be purchasing a PS3 and a Revolution.... since I trust Sony and Nintendo more than Microsoft whose only been in this console war for 1 generation.

Perfect Stu · 10-27-2005, 10:10 PM

the guy doesnt like the Revolution interface because he wont be able to sell the Unreal engine to as many REV developers...think about it, which systems' software are going to use the Unreal 3 Engine the most?

PS3 and XBox360 by far

Nintendo designed the Revolution for 1st party games FIRST. They always do, but in this case it's most obvious. They shouldnt really care about a guy who's trying to whore out his middleware software...

Jonbo298 · 10-27-2005, 10:18 PM

That doesnt mean NIntendo wont release an accessory thats the 'cube controller but used over REv for the new games

Teuthida · 10-27-2005, 10:20 PM

I enjoy consuming my bread in chunks rather than slices.

Xantar · 10-28-2005, 04:48 PM

The Xbox sold more first person shooters than ever were sold on the PC? Where does this guy get his facts? And from this he draws the inference that the Xbox 360 controller is great for first person shooters, probably better than the PS3's?

And I don't know about you, but the N64 never destroyed my thumb. Didn't even wound it.

He may have a general point here and there that's worth noting, but his ranting is just so brain dead stupid that I can't bring myself to agree with any of it. And the IGN video that's linked in that article just makes him look like an ass.

Shadow Fox · 10-29-2005, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Xantar

The Xbox sold more first person shooters than ever were sold on the PC? Where does this guy get his facts? And from this he draws the inference that the Xbox 360 controller is great for first person shooters, probably better than the PS3's?

And I don't know about you, but the N64 never destroyed my thumb. Didn't even wound it.

He may have a general point here and there that's worth noting, but his ranting is just so brain dead stupid that I can't bring myself to agree with any of it. And the IGN video that's linked in that article just makes him look like an ass.

Agreed.

That's some nice damage control though- the way he changed his question from "how many people own a GCN" to "how many people own ONLY a GCN"...just classic desperate measures to slam GameCube, knowing full well that the same could be said of almost any system in the past barring the NES and PS2.

More and more people own more than one console now.

The rest I kind of agree with regarding Revolution- many people are more worried about the interface than about making a good game now, as evidenced with DS.

And this, my friends, is where the "Nintendo Seal of Quality" should come in, more strict than ever. The controller shouldn't be the basis of horrible mini-games and shoddy ports with mini-games tacked on for the hell of it.

I do agree though; unless the new Controller S has changed from original Xbox, the 360 controller will also be good for First-Person Shooters. PS3's pad, in it's current form, doesn't look as pleasing, but that's just me...

Dark Samurai · 10-29-2005, 01:11 PM

I dont know if you all noticed it or not, but every generation, Nintendo always, (emphasis on always), brought something different to the table.

NES = D-Pad, A-B buttons
SNES = 4-button layout, Shoulder Buttons
N64 = Analog Stick, Rumble
GCN = Wireless Controllers that didnt require you to be directly in front of the sensor

And now with the Revolution, technology that lets you move, and not stay in that same position anymore, you know the one, sitting down with hands together.

And look how everyone's copied it. Just about everything I mentioned here, is on another controller or two. The N64 was the greatest controller for FPS, and I think we can all agree with that.

I tried out the XBox 360 controller over at EB, and it feels great, in fact, I think its going to be the best "regular" controller this next gen, but Nintendo will have the best controller overall, but not because its different, its because it can be applied to any genre, and make it better...

So, Sony, what youre saying is you dont like change? I've gotten used to every Nintendo controller theyve ever made... and its never stopped me, and its in that statement, where my point lies. I love Nintendo more, because they never copy any other company's ideas, because they are the originators, who do you think brought you the D Pads, shoulder buttons, analog sticks, 4 button layouts, rumble and wireless technologies? Nintendo, thats who.

What did both Microsoft and Sony bring?

DeathsHand · 10-27-2005, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Sony

But as seasoned a gamer as I am... I really have no time to be fooling around with button layouts and getting used to another layout.

...?

So you'd rather things stay the same forever because you don't want to have to take oh, the... 10 minutes it'd probably take to get used to using the controller?

I don't see how getting used to a new controller is much more difficult than getting used to a new control scheme (and the general feel of the game) on an existing controller... And I'm sure you'll run into a few of those on 360/PS3...