First Blu-ray Drive by Pioneer Q1 2006

[MuGen]

*...What...we've got here is.......failure to communicate...
some men you just can't reach
so you get what we had here last week
which is the way he was
well.....*
~Civil War, GUns n' Roses

Hmmmmmmmmmmm

[Null]

ahem.. "which is the way he wants it.... well, he gets it."

[Teuthida]

*I’ve got a lovely bunch of coconuts
There they are all standing in a row
Big ones, small ones, some as big as your head
Give them a twist, a flick of the wrist
That’s what the showman said*
~I've Got a Lovely Bunch of Coconuts, Fred Heatherton

Hmmmmmmmmmmm

[Perfect Stu]

Originally Posted by MuGen

*...What...we've got here is.......failure to communicate...
some men you just can't reach
so you get what we had here last week
which is the way he was
well.....*
~Civil War, GUns n' Roses

Hmmmmmmmmmmm

"What we have here is failure to communicate"





-1967

[Jonbo298]

No..I meant if you compare the fact it takes 2-3 minutes roughly for a 52x CD Burner to burn a full CD, and that BRD is ALOT higher then that, the burn times are going to be very high.

I'm not purposely screwing up my math if I am. I'm comparing the fact that 2x of anything media related is "slow" even if brand new.

Would you buy a 2x CD burner or 2x DVD burner? I'm gonna wait until probably at least 4x since its a ltitle better off. Hell, we arent even close to 52x for DVD's

[Null]

you have no idea the value of the speed yet..

you could be right

OR, 1x BRD could be as fast as a 54x CD. and 2x is twice as fast.

a bit unrealistic maybe.. However, isnt the highest speed for burning a DVD still at just 16x, and thats almost as fast as it is to burn a full CD. so taken into account that a full DVD is 4gb, and a full CD 800mb... then 16x DVD is a whole lot faster then 54x CD.
stands to reason that the newer formats are going to be faster and therefor have a lower number.




BTW.. 2 or 3min? i burn a full CD in 30sec.

[MuGen]

Originally Posted by Perfect Stu

"What we have here is failure to communicate"
-1967

I was taking it from the actual song.. and thats for the clarification Null I really wasn't sure what he said there..

EDIT:

Link:http://www.blu-ray.com/faq/#1.7

According to the Blu-ray Disc specification, 1x speed is defined as 36Mbps. However, as BD-ROM movies will require a 54Mbps data transfer rate the minimum speed we're expecting to see is 2x (72Mbps). Blu-ray also has the potential for much higher speeds, as a result of the larger numerical aperture (NA) adopted by Blu-ray Disc. The large NA value effectively means that Blu-ray will require less recording power and lower disc rotation speed than DVD and HD-DVD to achieve the same data transfer rate. While the media itself limited the recording speed in the past, the only limiting factor for Blu-ray is the capacity of the hardware. If we assume a maximum disc rotation speed of 10,000 RPM, then 12x at the outer diameter should be possible (about 400Mbps). This is why the Blu-ray Disc Association (BDA) already has plans to raise the speed to 8x (288Mbps) or more in the future.

Basically.... 1x BDR would burn a 800MB CD in about 22 seconds.
Let's go out on a limb and say you actually fill up a 25GB BDR.
It would write on 1x the full 25GB in 11 minutes.
Now a 2x which is 72mbps would write the full 25GB in... 5 minutes

If my research is correct 52x CD-R is about 7.8mbps...which is significantly slower than 1x BDR...

enough speed for you Jonbo or a lil sluggish?

[Jonbo298]

I dont want to wait 11 minutes to burn a BDR If it was 72mbps for a DVD, that would be nice but for something ALOT larger, its sluggish compared to whats to come

4x and I'll probably consider a BDR PC Drive I dont like waiting too long for a CD/DVD to burn.

Null: Maybe my CD burner is slow to kickup then..its 52x but maybe its just slower to get up to that speed. Probably is but oh well, ill upgrade eventually

[KillerGremlin]

11 Minutes....pfffft. I remember back in 6th grade, I'd wait 45 minutes at my friends house to burn a CD. Nowadays, I wait 30 seconds like Null.

Won't the Playstation 3 be using Blu-Ray discs? If so, Sony is probably crapping themselves right now. I know pirating is inevitable, but if Blue-Ray comes out before the PS3...lol.

[Null]

sony (along with partner companies) is the one making blue ray discs. sony is controlling exactly what they want to happen with them.

its not like it just so happens that PS3 will come out with blu ray support while all the actual blu ray players will cost much much more.

[Perfect Stu]

Originally Posted by MuGen

I was taking it from the actual song..

the ACTUAL song, that came out well after Cool Hand Luke?

[MuGen]

Originally Posted by Perfect Stu

the ACTUAL song, that came out well after Cool Hand Luke?

Yeah, directly from the Guns n Roses song... I'm not going for historical accuracy here......... just a lyrical excerpt from the Guns n Roses song.