Super Mario RPG vs Paper Mario vs Mario and Luigi

[BreakABone]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

Super Mario RPG is possibly the best Mario game in existence, In my opinion. Because it did something most other Mario games didnt do: Give you new characters and a good storyline.

Hell, I'll still play Mario RPG from time to time.

And I've played the first Paper Mario, and I didnt think it sucked, but it was nothing special. It was basically "look at us, we can make a 3D game with 2D characters, arent we revolutionary!!?"

So all in all, Mario RPG rapes both of these other games while also fellating their mothers.

I think its an insult to consider this the best Mario game around.

Quite frankly from the little I played, it seemed like an RPG first and it just so happened to have Mario characters in it.

Mario was never intended to be an RPG so I think that is an insult to the creators as well as the series to be frank...

Part of the reason it fails is because the new characters in my opinion doesn't exactly fit the mold of the mario universe. Granted at this point its a pretty damn big universe, but atleast the other games were nice enough to give you partners in pre-defined roles like Goombas, Yoshis, Ghosts and all that other stuff while still creating new characters or personalities.

I think the Paper Mario games are better games simply because they acknowledge that they are Mario games. Sure they are RPGs but they also have tons of platforming, good dialogue and aren't afraid to poke fun of themselves.

They are also longer games.. but eh...



Just to make a point though to a degree it goes with all the RPGs...

but how many of those "new" characters made re-appearances...

[Dyne]

The new characters might not have had a chance to make any more appearances because Square owned the rights to them.

But the Chancellor very well evolved into Toadsworth.

[Typhoid]

Originally Posted by BreakABone

I think its an insult to consider this the best Mario game around.

Quite frankly from the little I played, it seemed like an RPG first and it just so happened to have Mario characters in it.

So then what about Mario Kart? Is that a racing game that just so happens to have Mario Characters in it? What about Super Mario Strikers, Mario Tennis, Mario Baseball? Are those just sports games that happen to have Mario Characters in it? What about all the Mario Party games?

Originally Posted by BreakABone

Mario was never intended to be an RPG so I think that is an insult to the creators as well as the series to be frank...

Yes, he obviosly was. Or else they wouldnt have made 3 (to my knowledge) Mario RPG-like games.

Originally Posted by BreakABone

Part of the reason it fails is because the new characters in my opinion doesn't exactly fit the mold of the mario universe. Granted at this point its a pretty damn big universe, but atleast the other games were nice enough to give you partners in pre-defined roles like Goombas, Yoshis, Ghosts and all that other stuff while still creating new characters or personalities.

Who is to say what does and doesnt fit? It's a god damn fictional existance. In my eyes, a talking Marshmallow with arms fits into any Mario game about as much as a turtle wearing a helmet who rides a cloud does.

Originally Posted by BreakABone

I think the Paper Mario games are better games simply because they acknowledge that they are Mario games. Sure they are RPGs but they also have tons of platforming, good dialogue and aren't afraid to poke fun of themselves.

A Mario game doesnt need platforming to be good. We're out of the 2D era here. Sidescrolling is over. Platforming can still be used, but it's not the basis of a game anymore. I revert back to my "What about any other Mario game" speech. Show me the platforming in Super Mario Strikers please.




And have you thought that with Super Mario RPG, they wanted to make a "traditional" RPG? And to be fair, there actually is a certain degree of platforming in Super Mario RPG.

[TheSlyMoogle]

And typhoid you forgot to reiterate the fact that Mario RPG is the best Mario game ever.

Yeah... Ever.

Lucky Shell. Bosses from other games, frying pan super weapon. Heck yeah!