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Re: 9/11 Conspiracy Nutballs
Old 05-23-2006, 07:00 PM   #1
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loosechange911.com is kook central if you're interested in conspiracy theories. A more reasonable discussion can be found at www.randi.org
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Old 05-24-2006, 08:25 AM   #2
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The funniest part for me about the ever evolving conspiracy theories is that viewpoints change drastically, sometimes doing complete 180s, so that the theorist can continue their dialogue (or more accurately, monologue).

Examples:

For years Bush has been viewed as either a man of average intelligence or a complete idiot by the left. Conspiracy theorists believe he is the modern day Moriarty, the most deviously intelligent man in history who can't pronounce "nuclear".

The far left has been screaming "blood for oil" during the entire gulf war endeavor, meanwhile prices have oil skyrocketed and the US debt skyrockets with it. Confronted with the obvious, the theorists have changed their tune. Now, the Iraq war was intended to CUT OFF oil supplies so that oil companies could gouge the American public. While this ignores the evidence of low profit per barrel margins for oil companies (they are profiting from a huge increase in demand), rediculous taxes that pump up the price and the fact that we had an embargo on Iraq for years and never got oil from them anyway. These are not items that are talked about in the mainstream media so they can depend on public ignorance (more likely their own) to continue the discussion. You'll see this a lot with conspiracy theorists.

Here is the bottom line: Bush is evil in their eyes, and no feat of intelligence or specious logic can keep theorists from creating and manipulating the means to this end.

Bush simply being incompetent or even just of a different political ideal isn't enough. He must be evil.

EDIT: One more thing... conspiracy theorists and the growth of their influence is very disheartening. We can simply ignore them and laugh off their beliefs as preposterous, but the more people they convince, the more people they render powerless.

By accepting "big brother" theories such as "US created 9/11 and the like, the accepting party essentially has given up hope on their ability to control their lives. No matter what they do, they feel that rich, powerful men will subvert their actions. So why bother? Why not just grow out your hair, smoke weed, drop out and give up? After all, what is the point of trying if you re doomed to persecution and failure by parties too powerful to fight? So the prophecy and theory becomes reality, and they are powerless because they have rendered themselves as such.
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Old 05-25-2006, 11:25 PM   #3
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yadda yadda yadda yadda yadda.

I skimmed the thread, and it seems like everyone's missing the easiest way to dismiss all of the tin foil hat nonsense.

It's the old "how long can two people keep a secret" thing.

How many people would have to be involved in faking 9/11? 100? 1,000? 10,000?

Even if it's only 100, what are the chances that all 100 would be unconscionable enough to keep quite about it for five years?
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Old 05-26-2006, 12:21 AM   #4
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What if the 100 people involved were all killed by 1 hitman hired by the head of the whole conspiracy!

You can never be sure with these things....
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Old 05-26-2006, 12:41 AM   #5
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What if the 100 people involved were all killed by 1 hitman hired by the head of the whole conspiracy!

You can never be sure with these things....

Dick Cheney just made it seem like it was an accident...


/me shrugs and walks away
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Old 05-26-2006, 12:52 AM   #6
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That reminds me, someone suggested that we assassinate Bush. And then this other person goes, "and then Cheney would be in charge."

The first guy was like, "either get em both or stick with bush."

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Old 05-26-2006, 08:15 AM   #7
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What if the 100 people involved were all killed by 1 hitman hired by the head of the whole conspiracy!

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