X-men 3: The Last Stand (Pre-impressions)

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Originally Posted by GameMaster

Technically you didn't get what you expected because initially you were expecting a sequel from the same director.

But hey, who am I to start picking crow feathers?

Ah actually tho you would be incorrect. i never payed attention to who did the first 2. and had no expectations of a sequal at all. first i heard of the sequal was when i heard of the directer change, then i looked up the new direction to see what he's done.. therefor, that was my first expectation.

i win! :P

[BreakABone]

Well just gonna say spoilers ahead and not bother to seperate the rest.

I must say the movie was a complete mixed bag for me.

I've come to accept that certain elements have got to change from page to screen when dealing with works like that. But some of the changes in X-men just threw me for a loop.

-The whole Phoenix thing just pissed me off. One is it pretty much drops any element of it that was presented in the comics or the cartoon. It is supposed to be an alien being.. not so much in the fact that it comes from space or anything but in the fact that it enters Jean's body and amplifies her powers. But this whole sub-con thing was just bleh. That and I think it went against what was establised in x2 as it seemed phoenix more or less came out when Jean exhausted her powers.

-Juggernaunt was changed into a mutant so that they could have an easy copout for the climax. Also they made him a complete waste. From design to ripping off an internet catchphrase.

Now that thats out of the way. My more practical issues with the movie.

-First and foremost, this was probably the worst end to a trilogy ever. First off they pretty much kill off or don't mention half of the characters from the original movies such as Nightcrawler, Toad, Sabbotooth, Cyclops, Professor X. Then there was the fact that they introduced so many characters like Kitty Pride (who was in the previous 2 movies as well but with a different actress in each), Colossus and pretty much everyone on Magneto's Brotherhood outside of Pyro. The only problem was most of those mutants were pretty much showpieces as they weren't given much story.

-Second was turning Magneto into some generic terrorist. Heck, Magneto seemed to have become Bin Laden in the film with him sending taped messages and being on the govts watch list but not being able to find him. Magneto is evil, Magneto is cunning, he is ruthless but they pretty much just simplified all of those elements.

-The plot. I don't know where the hell it was. I mean as far as I could tell the good mutants were on decent terms with the gov't and the evil mutants just wanted to cause trouble. So it was like half of mutants vs mankind with the other half of mutants or whatever... I don't know.

-the watered down X-team. For the end of the trilogy. Wolverine and Storm are the only members from the previous 2 movies "team". I have no problem with Iceman, Colossus, Kitty Pride and Beast but come on.. how watered down did they have to make the original team. not only that but 4 of them for the most part took out Magneto's army (Storm was busy fighting with the chick for most of the climax and Kitty was running around the building)

-They really needed to keep Cyclops alive in order to kill Jean. The way Logan did it just seemed so forced.

[DeathsHand]

Originally Posted by BreakABone

-Juggernaunt...

-First and foremost...

-Second...

-The plot...

-the watered down X-team...

- Agreed

- Agreed

- Agreed

- Agreed

- Agreed...

I found the movie kinda boring on a whole, and rather silly in various places... From the generic evil of Magneto, to the generic phrases of the President (which he couldn't seem to say with a straight face... "Then god help us all *smile*") to anything involving Juggernaut...

I've also got a petty bone to pick with the movie's subtitle, as I in no way saw how this was a "Last Stand"...
Mutants died, mutants changed, but some still remain, as does humanity...

Sooooo........

[KillerGremlin]

They should of left the Phoenix out of this movie.

[GameMaster]

Also, what is up with Magneto just casually playing chess in a park following the 'last stand'?

Has the U.S. government, X-Men, and every other person on the planet suddenly pardoned and forgotten about everything he did prior to losing his powers? I mean, shouldn't he be imprisoned or something for all the destruction and death he caused?

I mean, at least bill the guy for ruining our Golden Gate Bridge!

Will someone at least search for him, sheesh!

And one of my friends said that Mystique will get her powers back because Magneto did which means that the 'cure' really isn't permanent. True? False?

[Canyarion]

Yeah I liked the part where Magneto moved the chess piece with his powers.

[BreakABone]

Originally Posted by GameMaster

Also, what is up with Magneto just casually playing chess in a park following the 'last stand'?

Has the U.S. government, X-Men, and every other person on the planet suddenly pardoned and forgotten about everything he did prior to losing his powers? I mean, shouldn't he be imprisoned or something for all the destruction and death he caused?

I mean, at least bill the guy for ruining our Golden Gate Bridge!

Will someone at least search for him, sheesh!

And one of my friends said that Mystique will get her powers back because Magneto did which means that the 'cure' really isn't permanent. True? False?

I hate to say this, but agree with you.

I mean the whole point of the movie seemed to be that Magneto was this giant threat and the US gov't was after him.

And somehow they let him escape from the island? when its been established the only way he could of got off is either by plane, which seems unlikely, or by boat.. again unlikely. And its not like people don't know what he looks like.

And I don't know, I think they left the "cure" open ended for a possible sequel.

They should of left the Phoenix out of this movie.

I agree.

That woulda been hard to do when they already started the phoenix in X2...

They could of held off with the Phoenix until the end of the movie and have her emerge at the end or something for a possible x4.

The way they did it seemed rushed and not in the spirit of x2. I mean she was a flaming bird at the end of x2. No flames anywhere here.

[Null]

no doubt they coulda done it differnetly and should of. but holding off the the end isnt leaving it out of this movie. its just putting in the movie a different way. probably a better way.

is there going to be an x4?

What will they call it? X-Men: The Stand After the Last Stand!

[Null]

Originally Posted by KillerGremlin

They should of left the Phoenix out of this movie.

That woulda been hard to do when they already started the phoenix in X2...