North Korea Missile Fails After 35 Seconds

KillerGremlin · 07-04-2006, 08:13 PM

I'd like to see what Bush does if they hit America with a missle.

Jonbo298 · 07-04-2006, 08:32 PM

Well, if Kim holds up to what his new threat is, if the US strikes back, Kim will throw nukes at us.

So...its a matter of whether or not Kim is bluffing us with that threat or not

KillerGremlin · 07-04-2006, 09:17 PM

I don't know a damn thing about politics. But we went to war with Iraq with no hard evidence, even at the time of going to war. I'd like to think that their country would be a flaming crater before they ever got to shoot a nuke at us. If we strike back I don't think they'll be mobile.

Jason1 · 07-04-2006, 10:18 PM

Im shaking in my boots...

but seriously, is this country honestly scared about this ****? We have much more serious things to be worried about, like the oil crisis or global warming.

Typhoid · 07-04-2006, 10:31 PM

I agree with GM.

They're just testing.

If they cant test their weapons, why does any other country have any more right than they do?

Either all nations are allowed to test, or none are.

Simple as that.

Yes, they are communist. Yes, they have missles. Woo hoo.

Way to promote equality in saying they cant test, while your own country does.

KillerGremlin · 07-04-2006, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Typhoid

I agree with GM.

They're just testing.

If they cant test their weapons, why does any other country have any more right than they do?

Either all nations are allowed to test, or none are.

Simple as that.

Yes, they are communist. Yes, they have missles. Woo hoo.

Way to promote equality in saying they cant test, while your own country does.

I agree. Hey, let's let the Germans test things too. And better yet, they don't have to go public, it can be private tests!!! **** sanctions and restrictions. Let's have a free-for-all test-fest. If your country wants to test some nukes, **** getting permission, just test them! wooohooooooo.

Typhoid · 07-05-2006, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by KillerGremlin

I agree. Hey, let's let the Germans test things too. And better yet, they don't have to go public, it can be private tests!!! **** sanctions and restrictions. Let's have a free-for-all test-fest. If your country wants to test some nukes, **** getting permission, just test them! wooohooooooo.

And who said anything about a nuke?

As far as I know North Korea tested missles, not nuclear bombs.

You're comparing apples to hockey sticks here.

Neo · 07-05-2006, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Typhoid

I agree with GM.

They're just testing.

If they cant test their weapons, why does any other country have any more right than they do?

Either all nations are allowed to test, or none are.

Simple as that.

Yes, they are communist. Yes, they have missles. Woo hoo.

Way to promote equality in saying they cant test, while your own country does.

For one thing they're insane and don't value free societies. Also they don't follow any of the proper testing procedures such as notifying watercraft and planes to stay out of the testing zone.

MrCoffee · 07-05-2006, 01:20 PM

You can't JUST TEST when you test:
1.Without telling anyone
2.Without Permission
They fired two misile that could have been aimed at Japan or States, basically they are giving the message "Yeah were testing out misiles so we can blow the **** out of one of you...we just dont wanna tell you who *winks at US* to be honest I am glad I live in Canada...

KillerGremlin · 07-04-2006, 10:40 PM

What oil crisis? Global warming?

There is no oil crisis. Rich influential people are benefiting off of you having to pay tons of money for gas. Anyone that tells you an alternative source of fuel is not an option is bullsh!tting you and is most likely a politician, or the head of some major company. Crisis implicates that we are going to run out, and be screwed. We won't. They will milk you as long as they can, until you're possibly paying 5 or 6 dollars a gallon. Then, when we are on the brink of riots or running out, they will make the shift. It's not that the industry is afraid of making a shift, it's that the people running the industry like money.

And global warming is environmentalist propaganda crap.

Having to go to war with the world's 4th largest land army = bad times.

Bond · 07-04-2006, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by KillerGremlin

There is no oil crisis. Rich influential people are benefiting off of you having to pay tons of money for gas. Anyone that tells you an alternative source of fuel is not an option is bullsh!tting you and is most likely a politician, or the head of some major company. Crisis implicates that we are going to run out, and be screwed. We won't. They will milk you as long as they can, until you're possibly paying 5 or 6 dollars a gallon. Then, when we are on the brink of riots or running out, they will make the shift. It's not that the industry is afraid of making a shift, it's that the people running the industry like money.

That's quite an interesting economic theory that I have a hard time perscribing to.

The products that commpanys put forth are dependent on what people will buy and what they will pay for it. While almost everyone is currently complaining about gas prices (including myself) most people are still willing to pay the "high" price (compared to Europe gas is still extremely cheap here). The day when the people are unwilling to pay for gas will be the day that innovation takes place. It's not the other way around.

KillerGremlin · 07-04-2006, 11:01 PM

I agree, and I guess I didn't make it clear, so my bad, but I never said people were complaing now. I did say when people are rioting they will make the shift. The companies could make the shift now, they just choose not to. While I dislike throwing 45 dollars away every week, it's not the bane of my existance. It's just lame knowing that there's a solution around the corner and no one is going to tap it. Hence, no crisis.

Kyoko · 07-14-2006, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Bond

That's quite an interesting economic theory that I have a hard time perscribing to.

The products that commpanys put forth are dependent on what people will buy and what they will pay for it. While almost everyone is currently complaining about gas prices (including myself) most people are still willing to pay the "high" price (compared to Europe gas is still extremely cheap here). The day when the people are unwilling to pay for gas will be the day that innovation takes place. It's not the other way around.

Substitutes for gas are already in development mainly for environmental purposes, not so much for the money. But i agree, once the gas price gets too high people will see the economic opportunity and jump at it

Jason1 · 07-05-2006, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by KillerGremlin

What oil crisis? Global warming?

There is no oil crisis. Rich influential people are benefiting off of you having to pay tons of money for gas. Anyone that tells you an alternative source of fuel is not an option is bullsh!tting you and is most likely a politician, or the head of some major company. Crisis implicates that we are going to run out, and be screwed. We won't. They will milk you as long as they can, until you're possibly paying 5 or 6 dollars a gallon. Then, when we are on the brink of riots or running out, they will make the shift. It's not that the industry is afraid of making a shift, it's that the people running the industry like money.

And global warming is environmentalist propaganda crap.

Having to go to war with the world's 4th largest land army = bad times.

You might be partly right about Oil, but I highly disagree about global warming. It might not be a problem in our lifetime, but a generation or two down the road it will be. I mean I know Ethanol and Hybrids are starting to get out there more and more, but its not enough, yet anyways. Hydrogen is the real answer I feel, but thats still a long ways off. So I personally do feel like it is a crisis, or if youd rather not use that word, a major problem far more scary than some country testing a nuke, or a car bomb going off 10,000 miles away.

C.H · 07-05-2006, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by KillerGremlin

What oil crisis? Global warming?

There is no oil crisis. Rich influential people are benefiting off of you having to pay tons of money for gas. Anyone that tells you an alternative source of fuel is not an option is bullsh!tting you and is most likely a politician, or the head of some major company. Crisis implicates that we are going to run out, and be screwed. We won't. They will milk you as long as they can, until you're possibly paying 5 or 6 dollars a gallon. Then, when we are on the brink of riots or running out, they will make the shift. It's not that the industry is afraid of making a shift, it's that the people running the industry like money.

I don't think you can blow of the oil crisis as simple as that.

Make of this what you will, and read the full thing here: http://www.peakoil.org/

Quote:

"Civilization as we know it is coming to an end soon. This is not the wacky proclamation of a doomsday cult, apocalypse bible prophecy sect, or conspiracy theory society. Rather, it is the scientific conclusion of the best paid, most widely-respected geologists, physicists, and investment bankers in the world. These are rational, professional, conservative individuals who are absolutely terrified by a phenomenon known as global "Peak Oil.""

"The issue is not one of "running out" so much as it is not having enough to keep our economy running."

"Big deal. If gas prices get high, I’ll just drive less. Why should I give a damn?"

"Because petrochemicals are key components to much more than just the gas in your car. As geologist Dale Allen Pfeiffer points out in his article entitled, "Eating Fossil Fuels," approximately 10 calories of fossil fuels are required to produce every 1 calorie of food eaten in the US."

"How Do I Know Peak Oil Isn't Big Oil Propaganda That is Being Used To Create Artificial Scarcity & Justify Gouging Us at the Pump?"

If Peak Oil is "Big Oil propaganda" (as some claim), why did Sonoma State University's Project Censored declare it one of the most censored stories of 2003-2004? Surely, if "Peak Oil is Big Oil propaganda", Big Oil would have found a way to get it off the pages of under-funded publications like Project Censored and onto the pages of the mainstream papers and into the 24/7 cable news cycle years ago.

Likewise, if "Peak Oil is a myth propagated by the greedy oil companies to justify high prices", why didn't any of the greedy oil company CEOs offer "the peaking of world oil production" as a partial justification for high gas prices when they testified before Congress about high gas prices?