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Re: Bonds Hits Number 756
Old 08-08-2007, 06:30 PM   #1
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Alright, my bad on anabolic steroids. But, the book Game of Shadows alleges Bonds took stanozolol steroids, which weren't illegal in 1990 and still aren't illegal.

In any case, it's all just semantics anyway. Steroids should be eliminated from all sports unless if used for health purposes.
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Old 08-08-2007, 06:45 PM   #2
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You could also argue, ball players or wreslers, that many of the steroids were "prescriptions", but like Bond said, thats just semantics.
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Old 08-08-2007, 08:53 PM   #3
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I say we erase all of the MLB recods, teams and leagues and just start playing Blurnsball
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Old 08-09-2007, 03:08 AM   #4
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You could also argue, ball players or wreslers, that many of the steroids were "prescriptions", but like Bond said, thats just semantics.
Yeah, because we all know that WWE wrestlers are atheletes, right?
Please, WWE wrestlers are acrobats, on juice. Nothing more.
They're glorofied actors who can twist.

As I said before, defend your precious wrestling or not, wrestlers and athletes are not remotely the same thing.


Throw Cena in with an ACTUAL wrestler, see if he stands a chance.

Make the old DX a team of basketball players, and see if they win a game.

make every person wreslting on RAW a hockey team, see how many goals they score.
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Old 08-09-2007, 09:12 AM   #5
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Yeah, because we all know that WWE wrestlers are atheletes, right?
Please, WWE wrestlers are acrobats, on juice. Nothing more.
They're glorofied actors who can twist.
So acrobats aren't athletes? What is your definitionj of athlete? Mine is someone who is athletic.

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As I said before, defend your precious wrestling or not, wrestlers and athletes are not remotely the same thing.
I didn't defend my "precious" wrestling, in fact if you have any ability to recall recent conversation, I was one of the most harsh critics of the WWE during the whole Benoit tragedy. There is good wrestling, and bad wrestling. The are wrestlers who use steroids, and those that don't. Yes, they do exist and some of them work on highest levels of the sport. I don't support those that do.

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Throw Cena in with an ACTUAL wrestler, see if he stands a chance.
Do you mean a real wrestler like Kurt Angle? He's a pro-wrestler, and he won a gold medal for wrestling in the olympics. Oh wait, I'm sorry, how could he have done that? He's not an athlete, right?

And for the record, I think John Cena is a horrible pro-wrestler. You can be a fan of pro-wrestling and not like 100% of everything surrounding the sport. Its not an all or nothing world, Typhoid.

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Make the old DX a team of basketball players, and see if they win a game.

make every person wreslting on RAW a hockey team, see how many goals they score.
Put a football team or a team of gymnasts against a basketball team and hockey team, and who would win in a game of basketball or hockey? Have you ever played a sport? Do you know how they work? Thats the weakest argument I've ever heard.

And why are you harping on wrestling anyway? We're talking about baseball, and I didn't even bring wrestling up! I guess its a good distraction from the fraud of Major League Baseball...

And Typhoid, I'm not sure where all of your hostility is coming from here, well I know its not coming from THIS thread at least. I'll chalk it up to you being bitter over me repeatedly beating you up in thread after thread. Let the anger go, man, its embarrassing.
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Old 08-09-2007, 10:17 AM   #6
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I agree with Mr. S here. Wrestlers are athletes, you don't have to be competing to score the most points, run the fastest, or jump the highest to be an athlete, sometimes you're just judged on how well you use you can preform.

Just because the "winners" and "losers" of wrestling matches are pre determined doesn't mean they're not athletes.
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Old 08-09-2007, 10:54 AM   #7
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Just because the "winners" and "losers" of wrestling matches are pre determined doesn't mean they're not athletes.
I wouldn't put them in the same catagory as someone who does a sport, or gymnastics however.

I'm not saying anyone can be a wrestler, and I'm not saying being a wrestler is easy, I just don't think they should be compared to football players, soccer players, baseball players, hockey players etc.

This is supposed to be about Bonds and such, though.
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Old 08-09-2007, 12:01 PM   #8
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I wouldn't put them in the same catagory as someone who does a sport, or gymnastics however.

I'm not saying anyone can be a wrestler, and I'm not saying being a wrestler is easy, I just don't think they should be compared to football players, soccer players, baseball players, hockey players etc.
Well I'm not necessarily comparing the sport aspect, but more the ethical aspect. There is no question that wrestling is not a sport, but because its not a sport makes the steroid use a bit more tolerable in my eyes, because there is no competition, only performance.

Sports enhancing drugs used in sporting events makes for an uneven playing field, and lessens the accomplishments of true athletic feats because you canb always say "its not them, its the drugs they're on". It makes the sport fake.

Wrestling has been admittedly staged for almost 80 years, and hasn't pretended to be a true sport. Therefore, its based on fakery and admits to it. Baseball does not and will not. Therein lies the hypocrisy, IMO.

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This is supposed to be about Bonds and such, though.
Yes, thank you. Enough about pro-wrestling. (I didn't even bring it up)
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