Universe Creation

[TheGame]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

Strangie, even in science - what was isn't always what is.

My point is (despite the fact it's not the intention of the thread) things change. Especially in science. That's what makes it science. That's what makes it interesting and new. If you aren't able to think there may be something outside of a Universe, fine. In no way is a Superverse comparable to a God.

I think the big bang therory is comparable to god because both instances break the basic rules of science as we know it. Science's base rule is the one about how energy can't be created or destroyed without something causing it.

You're probably thinking of it as Universe =/= Energy, but Energy is what must have always existed and always will. The creation of the universe just goes beyond the rules of science and what man itself can understand. The rules of earth is that everything has a begining, and everything has an end... so people are quick to dismiss the idea that the universe is eternal, weather its someone who believes in god or not. People want the universe or the earth to follow the same rules of having a set begining, and likely having a set end.

When someone says the univerve is eternal, think of it in the sense that energy is eternal.. Either that or someone/something created it. If neither is true, then science as the world knows it now is completly wrong about energy. And if that's so, I'd really like to see how you came to this conclusion.

[Typhoid]

Originally Posted by TheGame

When someone says the univerve is eternal, think of it in the sense that energy is eternal.. Either that or someone/something created it. If neither is true, then science as the world knows it now is completly wrong about energy. And if that's so, I'd really like to see how you came to this conclusion.

Not to get all sci-fi, but (this isn't necessarily what I believe, for the record) but think of the pre-big bang matter as an atom. Now something must have caused it, like possibly another "atom" smashing into it. I know something must spark energy to start a reaction.

But there are so many ways you can look at it, that it's mind boggling. Every way you think of it can make sense - relatively - because realistically nothing can be proved 100%, so nobody can really tell you that you're wrong.

[TheGame]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

Not to get all sci-fi, but (this isn't necessarily what I believe, for the record) but think of the pre-big bang matter as an atom. Now something must have caused it, like possibly another "atom" smashing into it. I know something must spark energy to start a reaction.

But there are so many ways you can look at it, that it's mind boggling. Every way you think of it can make sense - relatively - because realistically nothing can be proved 100%, so nobody can really tell you that you're wrong.

What do you believe?