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Re: Mrs. Clinton or Mr. Obama
Old 02-03-2008, 02:52 PM   #1
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Default Re: Mrs. Clinton or Mr. Obama

Definitely Obama. He was always my second choice behind Dennis Kucinich who I knew would have to drop out anyway. Though the Pennsylvania primaries aren't until April or something anyway so I guess I don't have much say unless things aren't decided until then.
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Old 02-03-2008, 03:04 PM   #2
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I think when one of them wins democratic candidacy, they should put the other on their ticket as vice president.

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Re: Mrs. Clinton or Mr. Obama
Old 02-03-2008, 03:27 PM   #3
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Haha.

Wait a minute, could Hilary run with Bill as her vice president? Is that constitutional allowed?
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Old 02-03-2008, 06:40 PM   #4
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Hillary by far. Even though I disagree with most of her policies, she is at least somewhat experienced, unlike Obama. Honestly, I think Obama is utterly clueless. His speeches sound wonderful at the time, but once they're finsihed I can't remember a single substantive argument he made.

His entire run for president is based on cliches ("It's time for change!") and good feelings (The audacity of hope). So far I haven't heard a damn thing I could even consider an actual policy. To be fair, I view Huckabee the same way.

Oh well, Rudy's out, so it doesn't matter much to me anyway. I think whoever the democrat is, they will win the election, if only because I think Ron Paul is positioning for a 3rd prty ticket run and he'll suck enough votes away that any Republican candidate is guaranteed to lose.
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Old 02-05-2008, 12:34 PM   #5
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Hillary by far. Even though I disagree with most of her policies, she is at least somewhat experienced, unlike Obama.
I hear this so much, and its a nonsense cop out arguement. Who cares if Obama "dosent have much experience." As far as im concerned, thats exactly what we need. Someone who isnt a typical politician. I mean, look what "experience" got us the past 8 years, one of the worst presidents ever.
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Old 02-05-2008, 03:03 PM   #6
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The last Clinton we had did a pretty good job so I wouldn't mind if Hilary or Obama got elected. I think Obama has a more genuine approach to politics because he is inexperienced. So far I'm leaning towards Obama but whatever. America needs radical change, we need a complete 180 in Washington. We need to rebuild our image to the rest of the world, we need to get the fuck outta Iraq, drop a few bombs on the Al-Qaeda, deal with China and fix welfare. Instead of spending a bajillion dollars on a war for oil we need to research alternative fuel. The average person driving a Honda Civic or a family van should be able to do so using alternative fuels. We need to get SUVs of the road. I'm not happy to be an American right now. Hopefully whoever gets elected can bring change to this country.

I just wish Al Gore won...
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Old 02-05-2008, 03:43 PM   #7
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The last Clinton we had did a pretty good job so I wouldn't mind if Hilary or Obama got elected. I think Obama has a more genuine approach to politics because he is inexperienced. So far I'm leaning towards Obama but whatever. America needs radical change, we need a complete 180 in Washington. We need to rebuild our image to the rest of the world, we need to get the fuck outta Iraq, drop a few bombs on the Al-Qaeda, deal with China and fix welfare. Instead of spending a bajillion dollars on a war for oil we need to research alternative fuel. The average person driving a Honda Civic or a family van should be able to do so using alternative fuels. We need to get SUVs of the road. I'm not happy to be an American right now. Hopefully whoever gets elected can bring change to this country.

I just wish Al Gore won...
Well put. If Gore wouldve won, I guarantee you we wouldnt be paying 3 dollars a gallon for gas. Also, the entire world wouldnt hate us as they do now. When Hiliary or Barack win, gas prices will come down. Might not be instantly, but they will.
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Old 02-05-2008, 05:07 PM   #8
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I hear this so much, and its a nonsense cop out arguement. Who cares if Obama "dosent have much experience." As far as im concerned, thats exactly what we need. Someone who isnt a typical politician. I mean, look what "experience" got us the past 8 years, one of the worst presidents ever.
Sorry, but I think you need to finish at least a single term in a major office to be even considered for president. But lets accept your argument, then what about my argument that he has NO REAL POLICIES. He literally runs on on high hopes and good feelings. Inspirational speaking only takes you so far.

He is the Tony Robbins candidate. Sounds great but says nothing. When Hillary described his positions as naive, she wasn't kidding.

And you right about gas prices and Al Gore. We definitely wouldn't be paying three dollars a gallon... more like five after all the taxes he would have placed on gas to "encourage" us to make "smarter decisions".
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Old 02-04-2008, 01:05 AM   #9
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Haha.

Wait a minute, could Hilary run with Bill as her vice president? Is that constitutional allowed?
Technically no.
Since he would be direct ascention in case of an accident to Hilary. And he could only legally hold office, I believe for another 2 years.

I like Obama
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Old 02-04-2008, 03:52 AM   #10
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Technically no.
Since he would be direct ascention in case of an accident to Hilary. And he could only legally hold office, I believe for another 2 years.

I like Obama

It could just move on to the Speaker couldn't it? Skip the VP?
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