April NPD or Everyone Drinks except Nintendo

[DeathsHand]

Originally Posted by BreakABone

Not quite sure what you are trying to say with this post.

The first half of that post was actually edited to replace what I had previously written there, which was "Well it has been a busy two months for Nintendo, with 2 big franchise releases"...
Which I guess was what I was saying... But that didn't comment on the other 4 Wii games in the top 20...

Wii Play and Game Party are both basically just (according to "the people") mediocre-terrible mini-game compilations in the vein of Wii Sports...
Maybe Game Party will one day have a spot on the top 20 list of bestselling Wii games, next to Carnival Games, with it's 1.7+ million sales...

So ultimately, in the face of another silly PS3 vs. 360 vs. Wii graphic, I was pointing out that the only surprise on that list is the fact that some of Wii's terrible games are actually selling, after all...

[Aladuf]

Originally Posted by DeathsHand

So ultimately, in the face of another silly PS3 vs. 360 vs. Wii graphic, I was pointing out that the only surprise on that list is the fact that some of Wii's terrible games are actually selling, after all...

What's surprising about that? People can't stop forking out the money for these piece of shit non-games.

Game Party's Metacritic score: 25

And yet this thing is on the Top 20, fucking pathetic.


Edit: And people wonder when 3rd party developers will ever put out a respectable game on the Wii. Why the hell should they? If you can scrap together a "gem" like Game Party and be on the Top 20 and actually be moving up it, why the hell would you ever worry about making a quality game?

[BreakABone]

Originally Posted by Aladuf

What's surprising about that? People can't stop forking out the money for these piece of shit non-games.

Game Party's Metacritic score: 25

And yet this thing is on the Top 20, fucking pathetic.


Edit: And people wonder when 3rd party developers will ever put out a respectable game on the Wii. Why the hell should they? If you can scrap together a "gem" like Game Party and be on the Top 20 and actually be moving up it, why the hell would you ever worry about making a quality game?

You damned if you do.
And damned if you don't if your Nintendo.

I won't defend GameParty. I've never played it. I don't plan on playing it.

But is there a chance.. a small small chance that people who buy it actually enjoy it?

I had a friend back in high school who swore up and down the high heavens that Superman 64 was an awesome game. He would come in everyday and tel us about the game. Now to the rest of us, this was a joke Superman 64 was an awful game or so I've been told. I've never played it and have no intentions to, but he did and he found some enjoyment in it.

The same could be said for GameParty or even the ton more of party games on the Wii.

And you complain about Game PArty selling well and its a reason developers shouldn't put real games on the Wii, but what other "real" 3rd party game came out in April that deserved to sell? You can't look at an arguement one-sided and make a conclusion. One game sold well, but there were no real comparable games for you to show sold poorly.

Also, I believe game party was only released in March not Dec I could be mistaken.

And also I think this is the game, I knew people who were interested in it because it had a version of beer pong. Take that as you will.

[Aladuf]

Originally Posted by BreakABone

And you complain about Game PArty selling well and its a reason developers shouldn't put real games on the Wii, but what other "real" 3rd party game came out in April that deserved to sell? You can't look at an arguement one-sided and make a conclusion. One game sold well, but there were no real comparable games for you to show sold poorly.

Okami Wii. Sure it's just ANOTHER PS2 port on the Wii but it's a superior game to Game Party in every way. And it's not a non-game so that's always a plus in my book.

[BreakABone]

Originally Posted by Aladuf

Okami Wii. Sure it's just ANOTHER PS2 port on the Wii but it's a superior game to Game Party in every way. And it's not a non-game so that's always a plus in my book.

Yeah, it's a Ps2 port and figured it would be the one you mentioned, but hell it didn't sell well the first time around.

And also since you love throwing the term around Game Party isn't a non-game its a party game there is a difference.

[DeathsHand]

Originally Posted by BreakABone

You damned if you do.
And damned if you don't if your Nintendo.

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But is there a chance.. a small small chance that people who buy it actually enjoy it?

Maybe... and yet...
If Nintendo had decided to create a system that was truly in direct competition (as people like to put it) with Sony and Microsoft, and this hypothetical system surpassed Gamecube's total worldwide sales in less than 2 years (and was very likely to eventually surpass N64's total sales), as the Wii has done, there'd really be no "damned if you do" attitude right now...

Nintendo fans have always bought Nintendo consoles for Nintendo's offerings... With the Wii, you're still getting those; so from a Nintendo fan's perspective, you have everything you've always loved, only now it's selling like hotcakes...

The whole problem with this discussion lies within this new "casual" pseudo/non-gamer base they've tapped into, what they've done for sales, how interested they actually end up being in gaming, what kind of games they're interested in, etc etc etc...

As for Game Party/Carnival Games' success, of course there's a chance that someone will actually enjoy it (maybe somewhere along the lines of a 21% chance)... Especially among the new market Nintendo's discovered...
See though, I can't help but feel a bit like a snooty, elitist longtime gamer, but I personally don't want the future of gaming to be made up of by poorly thrown together mini-game compilations...
And from where I'm standing, the only difference between Wii and last generation is the success of that type of game, the mainstream hype, a dryer market of quality third-party titles, and a new controller that, IMO, hasn't quite lived up to the hype as the "future of gaming"...

Originally Posted by Gekko

There is no war, no battle, it's simply two companies with competing products. The only people who should care are the ones working for those companies. The rest of you simply decided you wanted to cheer for an electronics box that hooks up to your TV and then suddenly became hooligans fighting with each other.

If I may be the voice of Professor S's around the world, "console wars" is just a familiar label gamers use when discussing this situation in which two or three companies have competing products, so as not to have to type out "this situation in which companies have competing products" every time they want to mention it...
And while I'll agree that the term does give off a sense of teenagers throwing a couple of hissy-fits, I don't think that's the case...
But perhaps we can agree to call it "TSIWCHCP"?

As far as I'm concerned, TSIWCHCP simply provides a forum for discussion of where you see gaming going, where you want to see it go, etc etc...
Wii's new demographic simply makes things more interesting...A tad bit'o'the unknown... OoOoogidy...