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07-25-2008, 07:12 PM
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But what scares me the most is how Obama switches positions on issues depending on the aurience he is speaking with, so we end up knowing nothing about what he truly believes in, besides his belief that he should be President.
It's a bit frightening, to be honest.
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You people are rediculous. Replacing Bush with Mcain would, in effect, be like pooping on vomit.
But really its all irrelevant, because Obama will win in November and it wont be close. He will destroy Mcain. The people of this country have finally wised up (at least the ones who arent idiots)
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07-25-2008, 07:16 PM
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Re: Why Voting for Obama is a Mistake
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You people are rediculous. Replacing Bush with Mcain would, in effect, be like pooping on vomit.
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07-25-2008, 08:12 PM
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You people are rediculous.
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Heh, that's a great little pun, even if it was typo.
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07-26-2008, 09:39 AM
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Re: Why Voting for Obama is a Mistake
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You people are rediculous. Replacing Bush with Mcain would, in effect, be like pooping on vomit.
But really its all irrelevant, because Obama will win in November and it wont be close. He will destroy Mcain. The people of this country have finally wised up (at least the ones who arent idiots)
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I get the feeling that you think things are true because you put them into words and they had the ability to make it out your mouth.
1) McCain is nothing like Bush, and he has one of the most non-partisan voting records in the history of congress. He votes what he believes. Can you even tell me what Obama believes in besides himself, and by the way, "change" and "hope" don't count. Both of those stake platitudes are empty vessels that are intended to be filled by rubes.
2) You keep saying the election won't even be close... yet most polls show McCain continually staying with, and gaining on, Obama. I even find this shocking considering this the the most biased election coverage I've EVER seen on any level of the media, but facts are stubborn things and I can't deny them (though you do a good job of that). So what exactly do you base that statement on?
Do you operate on any other level in politics than the purely emotional?
Bond, what would you replace our dollar on now, instead of our ability to produce? Honestly, there isn't enough gold out there to back our dollar anymore, and since we moved to a fiat currency our country has experienced the most economic success of any nation in the history of the world. People keep saying that "we can't do this forever", but the problem is, that is purely based on speculation and reactionary responses to current economic events.
History has proven our economy to be resilient and over 10 and 20 years cycles to exprience far more success than failure, no matter what Ron Paul tries and sell the public. As for isolationism, well, I won;t even go into that as it has caused much more death and torment in the world than I'd like to comment on.
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07-26-2008, 11:03 AM
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Bond, what would you replace our dollar on now, instead of our ability to produce? Honestly, there isn't enough gold out there to back our dollar anymore, and since we moved to a fiat currency our country has experienced the most economic success of any nation in the history of the world. People keep saying that "we can't do this forever", but the problem is, that is purely based on speculation and reactionary responses to current economic events.
History has proven our economy to be resilient and over 10 and 20 years cycles to exprience far more success than failure, no matter what Ron Paul tries and sell the public. As for isolationism, well, I won;t even go into that as it has caused much more death and torment in the world than I'd like to comment on.
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I have no idea what the dollar could be backed with now, probably nothing. I suppose I don't think the issue of a fiat money system is a tremendous problem by itself, but when it's coupled with a six trillion dollar debt, a large part of which is owed to China, rising inflation, and an ever increasing government, I do see a problem.
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07-26-2008, 08:15 PM
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I have no idea what the dollar could be backed with now, probably nothing. I suppose I don't think the issue of a fiat money system is a tremendous problem by itself, but when it's coupled with a six trillion dollar debt, a large part of which is owed to China, rising inflation, and an ever increasing government, I do see a problem.
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I can't disagree with that, but out of those issues you raised, fiat currency is the least of our worries.
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07-26-2008, 12:29 PM
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2) You keep saying the election won't even be close... yet most polls show McCain continually staying with, and gaining on, Obama. I even find this shocking considering this the the most biased election coverage I've EVER seen on any level of the media, but facts are stubborn things and I can't deny them (though you do a good job of that). So what exactly do you base that statement on?
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Im basing that on what I believe. We cant rely on any polls, thats been proven before, one poll could show it this way another could show it a different way. Im just basing that statement on a general feeling I have...Im not really basing it on anything. So I ask that you just wait, because come november I will be proven right and I'll probably link back to threads like these just to prove my point.
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07-26-2008, 08:13 PM
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Im basing that on what I believe. We cant rely on any polls, thats been proven before, one poll could show it this way another could show it a different way. Im just basing that statement on a general feeling I have...Im not really basing it on anything. So I ask that you just wait, because come november I will be proven right and I'll probably link back to threads like these just to prove my point.
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I hope you do, because I've always had a horrible track record when it comes to political issues, like when I guaranteed that Bush would win in 2004 and Leiberman would win as an Independent in 2006...
For the record, my current prediction is that Obama will win by a thin margin, mainly because the media refuses to pay attention to anything he actually says and instead fellate him every chance they get.
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07-26-2008, 09:09 PM
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For the record, my current prediction is that Obama will win by a thin margin, mainly because the media refuses to pay attention to anything he actually says and instead fellate him every chance they get.
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Or the fact that he is obviously the better candidate, but bah nevermind that of course it will be the Media's fault when Mcain Loses! Its always their fault!
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07-26-2008, 09:32 PM
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Re: Why Voting for Obama is a Mistake
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I hope you do, because I've always had a horrible track record when it comes to political issues, like when I guaranteed that Bush would win in 2004 and Leiberman would win as an Independent in 2006...
For the record, my current prediction is that Obama will win by a thin margin, mainly because the media refuses to pay attention to anything he actually says and instead fellate him every chance they get.
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Yes, because the media has been absolutely fair to Obama. Calling his wife Michelle a "baby mama." "Mistaking" his name consistently for 'Osama', somebody who has committed mass murder on our country. The "liberal" media you speak of is nothing more than a myth. Did you see the Jerimiah Wright coverage? That almost guaranteed Obama's political death even though he had nothing to do with it, yet he still fought through it. But yes, he has been "given a blowjob" by the media. Ignore the racism and hate speech, that never happened.
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07-26-2008, 10:04 PM
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But anyway, a lot of the people putting down Obama now are the people who supported Bush in previous elections. You're wrong about him, and you're also wrong this time. If you win and McCain becomes President, you'll see that eventually.
If Obama wins, who knows what will happen. All I can say is that I feel things will be better than they are now, and I feel he will do a much better job than McCain. I feel he will make America a much better place. Sometimes a "feeling" does transcend political knowledge.
There's just some instinct or intuition that tells me he is the right choice.
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07-27-2008, 12:26 AM
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Yes, because the media has been absolutely fair to Obama. Calling his wife Michelle a "baby mama." "Mistaking" his name consistently for 'Osama', somebody who has committed mass murder on our country. The "liberal" media you speak of is nothing more than a myth. Did you see the Jerimiah Wright coverage? That almost guaranteed Obama's political death even though he had nothing to do with it, yet he still fought through it. But yes, he has been "given a blowjob" by the media. Ignore the racism and hate speech, that never happened.
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What you are quoting is not the media, they are spinsters and commentators. I am referring to newpaper headlines, major news stories and basic face time and interview time given by the media. For God's sake one compared him to JFK because of his awful and meaningless trip to Germany.
You mention Jeremiah Wright as if it supports your case. Any other polician would have been DESTROYED by their association with a hate monger like Wright, but Obama has essentially gotten away with it. Obama si asociated with a former domestic terrorist, and while I don't view his light association as being that bad, he has gotten away with it. Obama has taken two different sides on issues within weeks of stating them, LIED about it, and has gotten a free pass. If McCain had these associations, and not Obama, don't you think the outrage would have not yet ceased? If you really think there hasn't been a double standard in favor of Obama, you're not paying attention.
The worst part is, Obama has NEVER been pressed by any journalist on what he ACTUALLY STANDS FOR. Instead, they report on Obama as a phenomenon instead of someone who wants to lead our nation, and it's pathetic.
Lastly, the biggest proof of the media ifavoring Obama, is that the media is even taking him seriously. He has NO EXPERIENCE. There is no reason on God's green earth to consider this man as being qualified to be president, and yet he is worshipped almost to the level of a messiah.
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07-27-2008, 05:38 AM
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For God's sake one compared him to JFK because of his awful and meaningless trip to Germany.
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Out of curiosity, why do you think his trip to Germany was meaningless?
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Lastly, the biggest proof of the media ifavoring Obama, is that the media is even taking him seriously. He has NO EXPERIENCE. There is no reason on God's green earth to consider this man as being qualified to be president, and yet he is worshipped almost to the level of a messiah.
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Now, I'm not necessarily disagreeing that having little to no experience is a bad thing, but why are you sure that having experience is a guarantee for a good president? I mean, I'm sure you've seen all the articles floating about : Most historians and the general public believe that Lincoln was the greatest president the country has had.. and also one of the most inexperienced.
History has also shown us that having a lot of experience doesn't make a good president. So I just have to ask, why are you so adamant about requiring a wealthy amount of experience for presidency? I mean, Obama DOES have some experience.
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