Russia Invades Georgia

[Bond]

Originally Posted by manasecret

Ick, more of this "in my day" nostalgia crap, and you're only 20! What is it about humans that makes us always think that everything was so much better back in the day?

Yes, I know what you mean about bringing up politics in a discussion, and people don't want to talk about it. Do you really think things were much different in previous generations? Weren't people just as focused on celebrities 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, and 90 years ago? Wasn't the two-party system the same broke-as-fuck as it was 100 years ago? I know plenty of people my age and younger that are more than willing to talk politics and are very opinionated about, some of them here! Don't you think that it has always been that some people give a shit about politics, and others don't? Or do you really think this generation has all of sudden become so different than the past ones?

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that people didn't know nearly as much about starving children in Africa even 30 years ago, let alone 50, or 100, as we do today. I can prove this just by Googling "starving children in Africa" and read all the articles that come up. I'm going to go out on a further limb and say that we contribute much more time and money to those causes as a whole today, including people our age, than we did in those previous decades. I think people in the Peace Corps our age would be pissed off if you told them that they don't care.

And you talk about needing another World War?? Don't be so glib.

I think, for sure, the quality of our politicians has gone way down. Ronald Reagan, John F Kennedy, John Adams, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln... there aren't statesmen like them anymore.

[Professor S]

Too much here to reply to, but I find the basis of the arguments agianst the US/Poland agreement to be a bit... awkward at best.

Russia invades Georgia, says they're going to leave multple times but never attempt to do so for obvious expansionist reasons, the US and Poland agree to a defense deal inspiring Russia to theaten a NUCLEAR ATTACK... and we're the ones escalating this mess?

Is there ANYTHING that goes on in the world that isn't America's fault?

[manasecret]

Originally Posted by Professor S

Too much here to reply to, but I find the basis of the arguments agianst the US/Poland agreement to be a bit... awkward at best.

Russia invades Georgia, says they're going to leave multple times but never attempt to do so for obvious expansionist reasons, the US and Poland agree to a defense deal inspiring Russia to theaten a NUCLEAR ATTACK... and we're the ones escalating this mess?

Is there ANYTHING that goes on in the world that isn't America's fault?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you missed the first step in the sequence of events.

Didn't Georgia invade South Ossetia first?

But the funny part is, through all of this quibbling about whether generational identities are valid in this ccontext, we STILL SEE NO ATTEMPT TO PROVE OTHERWISE IN THE CONTEXT OF THIS THREAD.

Mana, it seems you'd rather argue the obvious than truly contend my point by actually posting about world events.

Ugh, completely not true. Please look back. I had moved on, and then another post was made (by KG) about how worthless his and my generation is, which I guess I should have just sat by and not cared that someone was shit-talking my generation. Then it would have been more of this not caring that my generation apparently only does.

You can tell me what your generation and my does and doesn't do all you like, but all the bottom two generations have SHOWN me is the exact opposite, regardless of your rhetoric.

So you and I have both presented opposing opinions, neither with meaningful evidence. Whoop dee doo. But I figured and hoped since you had seven studies to refer to you might actually bring in some interesting statistics, but I guess not. I guess you'll just be another old man in a long history of old men that bemoans the state of the youth without actually backing up your shit-talking, while the generation below you rolls their eyes.