John McCain picks Alaska Governer Sarah Palin as VP.

[Jason1]

Originally Posted by Professor S

I like Palin. I think she is a hell of a Governor and truly acts on what she thinks is right, and not what is "in the people's best interests".

And you think thats a good thing? So its better for the president to just do what they feel like and not whats best for the American people?

[Professor S]

Originally Posted by Jason1

And you think thats a good thing? So its better for the president to just do what they feel like and not whats best for the American people?

You don't take well to sarcasm, do you... The quotes were in place for a reason.

Seriously, though, Jason, do you just look for any reason to take the opposite opinion of a Republican? I've actually come out and agreed with many on the left that Palin is not qualified, and you have to cherry pick the tiny amount of positive opinion about her?

Its kind of sad.

[TheGame]

I've read up a lot more on Palin, and honestly I respect her a LOT now. I wanted to save my opinion for when I became more educated on her. Honestly I would place her a level above obama for leadership experience, but I wouldn't say either of them truely have a long enough track record to be in the oval office.

Overall I do not think this is a bad decision for Mccain by any strech, though its not shocking to see people put off by the fact that she's female.

[The Germanator]

Originally Posted by TheGame

I've read up a lot more on Palin, and honestly I respect her a LOT now. I wanted to save my opinion for when I became more educated on her. Honestly I would place her a level above obama for leadership experience, but I wouldn't say either of them truely have a long enough track record to be in the oval office.

I understand the Obama camp won't argue the experience factor, but I will. Palin is more experienced than Obama? I just think that's a joke.

Palin credentials:
- Bachelor's degree in Journalism from the University of Idaho.
- Briefly worked in broadcasting as a sports reporter for local Anchorage television stations.
- She spent four years on the Wasilla "City" Council.
- Two-term mayor of Wasilla, population approximately 6000 people, from 1996-2002.
- Governor of Alaska, population 670,053, from December 2006 to present.
- Member of the PTA, has 5 kids, Alaska is near Russia so she has "international relations" credentials.
(Okay, I just added these to be a dick, but the McCain campaign has legitimately touted these as qualifications. In my opinion that is pathetic)

Obama credentials:
- Bachelor's degree in political science and foreign relations from Columbia University
- Law degree from Harvard Law School. Editor of the Harvard Law Review. Graduated Magna Cum Laude. Majored in Constitutional Law.
- Senator of the 13th district in Illinois from 1996-2004, representing approximately 653,647 constituents.
- Representing Illinois in the U.S. Senate from 2004-2008 Obama was representing approximately 12,831,970 constituents.
- Member of: Senate Foreign Relations Committee; Member of Veterans' Affairs Committee; Committee on Homeland Security & Governmental Affairs; Committee on Health, Education, Labor & Pensions.
- Has been to the Middle East and met with leaders from Afghanistan, Iraq, Palestine and Israel, along with European allies.
- Here's a link to his senate accomplishments...http://tpzoo.wordpress.com/2008/08/3...nts/#more-6370

I personally think it's not even close. Plus, Obama defeated the Clinton machine to get here. His campaign has been tremendous and he's stood strong through many tough attacks. That shows leadership to me. He's been properly vetted by the 18 million Americans who voted for him. Palin was handed this gig.

Yeah, she's a VP candidate and he's a presidential candidate and I think that's just about right.

The people crying sexism already bug me too. It's been three days! The media is talking about how inexperienced she is because well, SHE IS! If it was a dude, they'd be doing the same thing. Anyway, just my thoughts.

[TheGame]

Originally Posted by The Germanator

I understand the Obama camp won't argue the experience factor, but I will. Palin is more experienced than Obama? I just think that's a joke.

Palin credentials:
- Bachelor's degree in Journalism from the University of Idaho.
- Briefly worked in broadcasting as a sports reporter for local Anchorage television stations.
- She spent four years on the Wasilla "City" Council.
- Two-term mayor of Wasilla, population approximately 6000 people, from 1996-2002.
- Governor of Alaska, population 670,053, from December 2006 to present.
- Member of the PTA, has 5 kids, Alaska is near Russia so she has "international relations" credentials.
(Okay, I just added these to be a dick, but the McCain campaign has legitimately touted these as qualifications. In my opinion that is pathetic)

Obama credentials:
- Bachelor's degree in political science and foreign relations from Columbia University
- Law degree from Harvard Law School. Editor of the Harvard Law Review. Graduated Magna Cum Laude. Majored in Constitutional Law.
- Senator of the 13th district in Illinois from 1996-2004, representing approximately 653,647 constituents.
- Representing Illinois in the U.S. Senate from 2004-2008 Obama was representing approximately 12,831,970 constituents.
- Member of: Senate Foreign Relations Committee; Member of Veterans' Affairs Committee; Committee on Homeland Security & Governmental Affairs; Committee on Health, Education, Labor & Pensions.
- Has been to the Middle East and met with leaders from Afghanistan, Iraq, Palestine and Israel, along with European allies.
- Here's a link to his senate accomplishments...http://tpzoo.wordpress.com/2008/08/3...nts/#more-6370

I personally think it's not even close. Plus, Obama defeated the Clinton machine to get here. His campaign has been tremendous and he's stood strong through many tough attacks. That shows leadership to me. He's been properly vetted by the 18 million Americans who voted for him. Palin was handed this gig.

Yeah, she's a VP candidate and he's a presidential candidate and I think that's just about right.

The people crying sexism already bug me too. It's been three days! The media is talking about how inexperienced she is because well, SHE IS! If it was a dude, they'd be doing the same thing. Anyway, just my thoughts.

Keep in mind that I said "Leadership Experience". She has executive experience, and from what I can tell has been in more positions where she had to be the one making outright tough decisions on her own. Opposed to Obama's experience where he's never been an executive, but has had more of an activist type history.

Not taking anything away from him though, he was voted to be the voice of the group he represents. But I don't see anything there that I could draw as being even similar to being the president of the united states. He's been in a position where he can share his opinions on things and can gamble with Ideals which are argueable because in his spot no one person controls anything.

I'm very tired while typing this, and I might see something different when I wake back up. But to sum it up Palin has been in situations where she had to power to make positive changes for her people and state government, and she stood up and did it. She's been in a position where every day she had to make the hard decisions for her people right or wrong and had to deal with the results of it... And Obama just hasn't.

That's my own take on it, as far as Media goes they're going to be biased on the situation one way or another so I ignore all the bullshit spewing from Media most of the time when making judgements.

[Jason1]

Originally Posted by Professor S

You don't take well to sarcasm, do you... The quotes were in place for a reason.

Seriously, though, Jason, do you just look for any reason to take the opposite opinion of a Republican? I've actually come out and agreed with many on the left that Palin is not qualified, and you have to cherry pick the tiny amount of positive opinion about her?

Its kind of sad.

Okay I did not read that as sarcasm, especially coming from you. I apologise. I havent even attempted to bash her yet. Honestly, the dems shouldnt spend much time arguing about her lack of experience, due to obvious reasons. It would be hypocritical for them to do that. I would never bash someone just because they havent been in politics very long. In fact, as ive said on numerous occasions, I find Obama's lack of "experience" (if you want to call it that) a good thing. Just because someone has been in politics a long time dosent mean they will make a good president or Vice president, likewise, just because someone has NOT been in politics very long dosent mean they will be a BAD president.