Journalist throws shoes at Bush

[Professor S]

Seth, you say you keep an open mind toward evidence... what evidence? What evidence do you have that Bush ran the Reagan whitehouse? What undebunked hard evidence do you have that 9/11 was an inside job? What real evidence do you have for any of this? Where are the documents? Where is the smoking gun? Nixon couldn't get away with a simple robbery without getting nailed... how is the world elite getting away with their nefarious schemes without producing a single verifiable shred of real evidence????

Evidemnce is not correlations or absence of contrarian data. Evidence is fact and is empirically viable. IMO, conspiracy theory is a mental dysfunction that relies on the lack of proof to validate wild logical leaps and imaginative explanations for our own feelings of powerlessness. Why aren't you a brilliant success? Who is keeping you back? Why is the world not perfect? Well, it must be a shadow government...

When it comes to the NWO, not only have you taken Presidential statements out of context, just as you previously took history out of context when talking about Iran and the arms deals (by the way, the Ayatollah was not "loved" by his people, at least not how you portray it. I personally know two families that RAN from the Ayatollah), but you still fail to post any evidence.

The greatest logical evidence that these crackpot theories are wrong is that Alex Jones is still alive. If the world is run by such a small collection of infinitely powerful people, why would they allow their "greatest nemesis" to live? They wouldn't.

[Seth]

Good question prof s. Watergate was a media frenzy, distracting from the real issues. Unelected Gerald Ford became president as a result, he then used the 25th to appoint Nelson Rockefeller as VP. Ford didn't cleanse the hill of corruption. -Webster G. Tarpley & Anton Chaitkin, George Bush: The Unauthorized Biography, Chapter 7
What are your thoughts about the destroyed evidence in the Iran-Contra scandal? That's fact and it's right out of the same wiki article you posted. Because it was destroyed do you assume the evidence was irrevelent to holding accountable the people involved?
You're pushing it with the conspiracy theory impact on the whole of one's life. I don't blame other people or organizations for my shortcomings. I know that I won't come out with an MA if I don't study hard at my uni. I believe in taking charge of one's life fully, and that, until a political powered entity removes my rights to follow what I want, well, no one else is to blame. I believe that disproportionate taxing does little to help the working class and effectively enables the richest of the country to dodge paying taxes...i believe this has a relative influence on my life, but I don't point to a Rockefellar power cabal or anything as the men in charge. Prof, I feel like you stereotype me into a raving alex jones loving CTheorist which isn't at all what I am. I can't bear listening to jones' garbage. If anything he's a perpetuator of the system, leading astray people who feel like the corruption spans past an administrative body, and has it's roots more in money. Alex Jones doesn't represent the conspiracy theory culture. He's a vent that the average joe american can listen to and form conclusions. I'm not saying that everything he says is garbage, but a lot of it is merely speculation. I think he takes truths and renders them invalid. That's why he's alive. Plus, martyred people...with his profile, make people protest.

I remember the popular science article you posted which was supposedly an infallible refute of the other view. http://www.ae911truth.org/
have you read the evidence in that website? They're architects and engineers, finding faults with the official story. I'd say it's worth your time. It's a different website than 9/11truth.org
The majority of Iranians felt that Ayatollah was a good leader. Yes, he murdered and persecuted, but so did the shah before him. Heck, they'd rape virgins before executing them because it's law that a virgin can't be put to death.
What do you think of the Defense Authorization Act of 2007? It gives the president power to declare marshal law for the laughable reason of restoring public order. Do you see your country heading in a good direction? What do you think of publicly elected officials(clinton, harper) speaking at Bilderberg meetings? Is it ok for government elects to hold private meetings, barred from media scrutiny? Maybe you believe the public's to stupid to form a rational opinion based on openness and honesty.
I'd ask you to read the power elite playbook series of articles, but you'd probably decline, seeing as how they're on conspiracyarchive.com All the articles are heavily referenced. I'm open to any articles you have which back your opinion.
I've found that the Bible has a lot to say about end times. If you want true answers, it's all in that book. None of you guys believe in its validity I can assume. Don't go Dawkins on me, but I believe that fulfilled prophecy has proven the authenticity of the Bible.

[Professor S]

Seth, beyond the Popular Science article I've posted, there are numerous photos, interviews and other organizations that have debunked the 9/11 myths you propogate, and for every myth that is debunked a new one will pop up in its place. Thats what happens with urban legends, and 9/11 truth is nothing more than that. I'm done going back and forth because there will always be a severe fringe minority voice that you will champion on the subject. Its pointless to argue religion, and to you this is honestly a religion.

As for covering up evidence for Iran Contra, that came out in the open during various hearings. No secret meetings... no clandestine shit... just the process at work and chickens coming home to roost.

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So the scanadal of Nixon was to cover for Gerald Ford being sent in as President??? You mean Nixon's resignation as President and the orderly transfer of power to Ford, the Vice President as its written in the Constitution, was a conspiracy??? DO YOU READ TO YOUR OWN COMMENTS??? I guess Bush lost to Obama because the Rothchilds deemed that Obama/Anti-Christ must come to power and Bush only was so unpopular to bring Obama to power....

How can't you see how this type of thinking castrates you? EVERYTHING IS A CONSPIRACY! Why bother trying if you have no control?

The biggest problems with conspiracy is that its completely subjective. Everything that confirms your belief is truth, and everything in the contrary is simply part of the conspiracy. Its nuts.

I'm not arguing that there isn't corruption, but to transform selfish/arrogant people into super-intelligent megalomaniacs our for world domination and not simply out for their own personal betterment is fiction.