Go Back   GameTavern > Peanut Talk > Movies & Television
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes

Re: New Watchmen Trailer
Old 03-27-2009, 03:40 AM   #1
KillerGremlin
No Pants
 
KillerGremlin's Avatar
 
KillerGremlin is offline
Location: Friggin In The Riggin
Now Playing: my ding-a-ling
Posts: 4,566
Default Re: New Watchmen Trailer

wow i just saw the film...

I actually sought out the graphic novel and read it before seeing the film. Normally I don't do that, but this comic in particular intrigued me.

I have to say, changing the ending so as to put the blame on Dr. Manhattan....I thought it cheapened the point of the original ending.

I thought Dr. Manhattan was one of the few beacons of hope in Alan Moore's dreadful dreary of a distopia. At the end of the novel he sees some good in humans, so much in fact he goes to stop the inevitable nuclear war...only to find that Ozymandias was the mastermind behind it all. He informs Ozymandias that the plan will only be temporarily successful (if that), we then see the guilty and emotional side of Ozymandias (which was also missing form the film), and then in a beacon of positivity and hope Dr. Manhattan leaves the love (Silk Spectre) he can no longer have since he is no longer human and he goes off to create new life elsewhere.

Blaming blue balls and making Ozymandias the supervillain and then leaving the film on a note with a united word........totally cheapens the ending in my opinion.

It was cute that at the end they find Rorschach's diary. I guess it is implied that the plan is a failure anyway.

Otherwise I thought the movie was fucking brilliant. The ending seemed rushed and I'd like to see a director's cut with the original ending since the original ending is better.

Better for who? Us comic nerds. As was stated in this thread I'm probably nitpcking. But the way I see....most people are going to hate Watchmen the movie unless they have read the book. It's heavy, depressing stuff. It's all over the place thematically too. So my question is, how many people are we REALLY alienating if we put a big squid creature in at the end?
  Reply With Quote

Re: New Watchmen Trailer
Old 03-27-2009, 04:45 AM   #2
KillerGremlin
No Pants
 
KillerGremlin's Avatar
 
KillerGremlin is offline
Location: Friggin In The Riggin
Now Playing: my ding-a-ling
Posts: 4,566
Default Re: New Watchmen Trailer

I'm just surprised that Snyder would follow the comic pretty much to a tee until the final chapter.......and change the ending and personality of Adrian.

I thought the casting was great.

I thought the comic to movie visuals was as good as it will get (just look at 300, it was EXPECTED).....

I even enjoyed the music, although some of the choices where a bit cliche and Dr. Manhattan's theme was by far the best....

I mean I almost came during the murder of The Comedian at the beginning.....the cinematography was BEAUTIFUL! And the whole prison scene with Rorschach was epic. It was just a beautiful film. So what the hell....

....why take creative liberties in the last 20 minutes of the otherwise perfectly translated vision?
  Reply With Quote

Re: New Watchmen Trailer
Old 03-27-2009, 10:41 AM   #3
Fox 6
John Lennon in '67
 
Fox 6's Avatar
 
Fox 6 is offline
Location: B.C. Canada
Now Playing: Xbox 360
Posts: 5,055
Default Re: New Watchmen Trailer

I think that it would be easier for movie audiences to accept Dr. Manhattan rather than a giant space squid with psychic powers.
__________________
  Reply With Quote

Re: New Watchmen Trailer
Old 03-27-2009, 11:42 AM   #4
BreakABone
Living Legend
 
BreakABone's Avatar
 
BreakABone is offline
Location: Resident of Alfred.. Yes the town named after Batman's butler
Now Playing:
Posts: 10,317
Default Re: New Watchmen Trailer

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox 6 View Post
I think that it would be easier for movie audiences to accept Dr. Manhattan rather than a giant space squid with psychic powers.
I think that goes hand in hand with them not showing Veidt's cat thingie before hand as it was part of his experimentation or whatever.

But I agree on some notes with KG, but he interrupted the ending a tad bit different as I always felt that Manhatthan returned because he kind of knew the inevitable, sure he was unable to see the future at that point.

Also, I think he leaves Silk Spectre because he sees that Nite Owl can offer her something he can not.

And I don't think Veidt is told outright that his plan will fail just that the struggle may always happen and what he did was for nigh.
__________________

Dyne on Canada's favorite pasttime,
Quote:
I loved ramming into animals as they ran away
  Reply With Quote

Re: New Watchmen Trailer
Old 03-27-2009, 01:16 PM   #5
KillerGremlin
No Pants
 
KillerGremlin's Avatar
 
KillerGremlin is offline
Location: Friggin In The Riggin
Now Playing: my ding-a-ling
Posts: 4,566
Default Re: New Watchmen Trailer

Quote:
Originally Posted by BreakABone View Post
I think that goes hand in hand with them not showing Veidt's cat thingie before hand as it was part of his experimentation or whatever.

But I agree on some notes with KG, but he interrupted the ending a tad bit different as I always felt that Manhatthan returned because he kind of knew the inevitable, sure he was unable to see the future at that point.

Also, I think he leaves Silk Spectre because he sees that Nite Owl can offer her something he can not.

And I don't think Veidt is told outright that his plan will fail just that the struggle may always happen and what he did was for nigh.
I think there is a lot of implication in the novel that Adrian's plan is only a temporary solution......and bless the novel, because in the novel Adrian actually has emotion and some regret towards what he did. In the movie he destroyed several major cities killing way more poeple and he kinda had a smug supervillain persona going the whole time.

I agree blue balls returned because it was inevitable....and i agree he left silk spectre because he sees night owl can offer her something he cannot: something human.

I think Mr. Zach Snyder could have screwed it up in a much worse way so after sleeping on this one for a night (literally) I'm fairly pleased. The source material is epic, and there has been a lot of protest towards making this film. Snyder was mostly faithful to the comic, the visuals were amazing, a lot of the story was told........it's silly to complain too much. Hopefully the Director's Cut or the DVD will have the original ending or a really really good explanation why the ending wasn't chosen.
  Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:37 AM.


vBulletin skin developed by: eXtremepixels
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
GameTavern