Star: Wars or Trek

[KillerGremlin]

If Episodes 4-6 are "bad," then I can't even imagine describing Episodes 1-3. I felt like Episode 1 was made to sell fucking happy meals and video games. The whole Pod Racing scene? That scene felt like it was injected into the movie to sell toys and video games (which it did). Episode 2 and 3 featured some of the WORST acting I have ever seen! And the script...come on George Lucas, you cannot write a fucking love story...and how could you, the only girls who like Star Wars look like Jabba the Hut and their vagina looks like this:

Anyway, I won't say anything serious about Star Wars because I'm not a huge fan, but back in the day the original trilogy blew my skirt up and tickled my vagine sooooo....
(i had some good father-son bonding seeing the original trilogy when it was rereleased in theaters)

I'm willing to bet Star Trek is better than the limited 6 Star Wars films. There are a bunch of Star Trek movies, two TV show runs (right? or is it more?), and yeah....The thing is I never watched Star Trek and like Star Wars I don't really give a shit about it. On the other hand, Star Wars probably wins with books and video games and parodies (Spaceballs!).

Seriously though, LoTR > Star Wars and Star Trek

I don't mind fanboys that much, they are fun to make fun of and every now and then you see some hot chicks dressed up.

[Typhoid]

Oh Strangler, how I missed your posts.


While yes, it's clearly my opinion that the movies are as bad in most cases as Episodes 1-3, it's immediately proven why nobody factors that in by KG's recent post:

(i had some good father-son bonding seeing the original trilogy when it was rereleased in theaters)

Nostalgia. The main culprit of why nobody will admit that Mark Hamill is a terrible actor. He is the Hayden Christiensen of those movies. Do I need to remind you of the scene where Darth Vader tells Luke he is his father, thusly resulting in the gem of acting prowess that is the "noooo" - much as bad as Vader in episode 3 shouting "nooo".

The Pod Racing scene wasn't made to sell toys. It just wound up that it was easily marketable, and technically a major scene in the movie - considering it proved that Anakin indeed does have a vast amount of "the force."

And don't even bring up "marketing" with Star Wars. Do you really forget about all the mass amounts of Star Wars crap they made in the 70's? All the shit with Han Solo on it, or a Leie Lunchbox? Maybe you want a Luke Skywalker bobblehead for your Station Wagon. Maybe a touch'n' speak Chewbacca more suits your need, or how about a Darth Vader mask? Maybe you can curl up at night beneath your "A New Hope" blanket and your Ewok bedsheets, but not before you lay your head down on your R2D2 and C3P0 pillows.

they hold up even today, and in many cases look better than CG IMO

Really? Really?

I didn't listen to the video, so I don't care what it says, but just look at it.







really?


Anyways, I'm not saying the trilogy sucks horribly, or Episodes 1-3 are amazing - I'm just saying people become biased over it because when they were kids, Star Wars was epic, it was awesome, it was fantastic, and trying to grasp the fact that the acting was crap, and the graphics (while good for their time) don't hold up - clearly, it was the 70's.

And to break it to you all who dearly love the originals - the script writing, while not bad, isn't anything special. People also seem to forget that Lucas was trying to focus on a new audience. Much like in Star Wars in the 70's, he was shooting for kids and teenagers, so was the case for episode 1. (not so much 2 and 3, really.) The problem there, is that as the years pass, you all age aswell. Thusly not making you that bright eyed lad with your father/friends in the theatre who is amazed at a man in a furry outfit who can warble his voice.

[Professor S]

Maybe it's my age, but I can pick out CGI from miniatures in a heartbeat, and miniatures just look better.I think it's the lighting. You just can't fake it in CGI.

My main complaints with the effects in the new movies aren't with the worlds, but in the overuse of CGI in characterizations. I HATE CGI characters. They look FAKE, and the live actors look like they're talking to empty space. I'll take crude puppets everytime, because at least the acting doesn't suffer horribly. The only successful CGI character I've ever seen in Golum, and that was because he was played by an actor and then the CGI was superimposed.

And puppeteering has come a long way. I was so happy to see that in Hitchhiker's Guide they used armatures and puppets for the Vogons. They looked incredible.

But thats besides the point. The storytellng, acting and writing are just better in the first three movies. Those movies had a soul, while the last three (except the end of Revenge) felt more like high production value mythology lessons.