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Re: A Business Plan Your Company Can Be Proud Of
Old 05-31-2009, 07:51 PM   #1
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If you can't see this, then I'm ashamed for you.
Once again, my comment was to make a point. A "joke" is a matter of perspective. Maybe Europeans find it hilarious, but I'm sure my late grandfather wouldn't, considering he carried a scar from his time in Europe until the day he died. He never talked about it either, and would get eerily silent any time WW2 was brought up.

So sure, your joke is just fine. I guess it's ok to diminish those who died for you two days after the holiday that is meant to remember them in the states.

Excuse me if I don't find that joke funny, and Europeans who do should be ashamed of themselves.
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Re: A Business Plan Your Company Can Be Proud Of
Old 05-31-2009, 07:56 PM   #2
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Once again, my comment was to make a point. A "joke" is a matter of perspective. Maybe Europeans find it hilarious, but I'm sure my late grandfather wouldn't, considering he carried a scar from his time in Europe until the day he died. He never talked about it either, and would get eerily silent any time WW2 was brought up.

So sure, your joke is just fine. I guess it's ok to diminish those who died for you two days after the holiday that is meant to remember them in the states.

Excuse me if I don't find that joke funny, and Europeans who do should be ashamed of themselves.


My joke?
When the hell did I post a joke.
Pick your words properly.

And yes, it's a matter of perspective.
Since you know it's all perspective, is there any reason to raise a giant stink over the internet about it?
This entire thread is accomplishing what?
Without posting around what I'm asking, just riddle me this:
What are your brash comments accomplishing?

It's like a guy yelling at his TV during a football game. The game will carry on with no account of what he says or doesnt say, yet he still keeps yelling at the TV.
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Re: A Business Plan Your Company Can Be Proud Of
Old 05-31-2009, 08:04 PM   #3
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My joke?
When the hell did I post a joke.
Pick your words properly.

And yes, it's a matter of perspective.
Since you know it's all perspective, is there any reason to raise a giant stink over the internet about it?
This entire thread is accomplishing what?
Without posting around what I'm asking, just riddle me this:
What are your brash comments accomplishing?
Well if you want to quibble over small points, then it's the "joke you're defending" and not "your" joke. Better now?

Hopefully I'm letting people here know that certain jokes should't be told in "mixed" company, and to think about how they would feel if the show was on the other foot and similar comments were made at their country/family/cultural region's expense.

Overall, this entire argument could have been avoided with a reasonable acknowledgment that maybe the "joke" shouldn't have been told in the first place, especially so soon after the holiday.
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Re: A Business Plan Your Company Can Be Proud Of
Old 05-31-2009, 08:08 PM   #4
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Well if you want to quibble over small points, then it's the "joke you're defending" and not "your" joke. Better now?
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Hopefully I'm letting people here know that certain jokes should't be told in "mixed" company, and to think about how they would feel if the show was on the other foot and similar comments were made at their country/family/cultural region's expense.
So then we can't post any Canadian, American, European, Female, Male, White, Black, Straight, or Gay jokes?

Hey, did you hear about the dirty horse?

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Overall, this entire argument could have been avoided with a reasonable acknowledgment that maybe the "joke" shouldn't have been told in the first place, especially so soon after the holiday.
I don't think any of that has anything to do with it.
It's a holiday for you.
He's not in your country. I didn't even know there was a U.S. holiday now.
Americans know, sure. But other than that, why would anyone else know? Especially overseas.

If jokes constantly have to be reviewed, and looked at because they might insult someone, they stop being jokes. The best thing about a joke, is that it's just a joke. If you do it purposely to prove a point - as you did - and post something of same or greater insulting value, then it's not a joke, because you didn't mean it to be funny. You meant it for another purpose.

Personally, you're just being really oversensative.
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Re: A Business Plan Your Company Can Be Proud Of
Old 05-31-2009, 08:15 PM   #5
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Maybe I am oversensitive to this point, bit the joke is still rude and based an incorrect premise. While my reaction may be exaggerated, that doesn't mean the joke wasn't offensive.

And in the end, thats all I was really trying to point out, but no one wanted to acknowledge the obvious.
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Old 05-31-2009, 08:17 PM   #6
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Maybe I am oversensitive to this point, bit the joke is still rude and based an incorrect premise. While my reaction may be exaggerated, that doesn't mean the joke wasn't offensive.

And in the end, thats all I was really trying to point out, but no one wanted to acknowledge the obvious.

All the best jokes are relatively offensive.
The reason they immediately lose all the offensiveness is because they're jokes.
They're said in jest, not in harm.
And that's where the difference lies.

It doesn't matter how you perceive the joke. If you took it in a bad light, then I guess the best way to say it is - "sucks for you". Jokes a joke.

This thread needs to be closed.
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Re: A Business Plan Your Company Can Be Proud Of
Old 05-31-2009, 08:31 PM   #7
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All the best jokes are relatively offensive.
The reason they immediately lose all the offensiveness is because they're jokes.
They're said in jest, not in harm.
And that's where the difference lies.

It doesn't matter how you perceive the joke. If you took it in a bad light, then I guess the best way to say it is - "sucks for you". Jokes a joke.

This thread needs to be closed.
By the logic you've expressed here, a racist joke wouldn't be offensive because it was intended as joke. That makes no sense at all.
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