Socialism

[Bond]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

A few socialist policies, not all-out socialism.
I'm aware of what the definition is. I know what socialism is.

Why are a few socialist things that might be better for the "greater good" threatening your way of life and scaring your children while they sleep.

Ah, okay. I apologize for the misconception. What socialist policies specifically then are you asking for an opinion on?

I think a lot of what you were quoting towards the end is a total load of shit. When people think Socialism, they immediately think Communism. I suppose that is the idea of why they keep saying "socialism", however. You don't need to follow socialism directly to the point to have socialist valus, and some socialist principles.

Nobody's mentioning taking anything away from anyone. Nobody is talking of abolishing private property or anything of the matter.

Interesting view on Ayn Rand.

I apologize for quoting those passages, again, I was unclear as to whether we were speaking of Socialism in general, or specific Socialist policies.

What is the loss of public healthcare? What is there to lose from representation for the states by population?

I don't understand these two questions. The House of Representatives functions under the premise of your second question.

I agree, enacting some socialist ideas in a large population will be hard. Not everything, however will be socialized. The main issue, is obviously healthcare. It's nearly ludicrous to have private healthcare with a population as large as the U.S.

Okay, so are we just talking about health care reform specifically, then? We've touched on this issue before in other threads.

I'm honestly confused as to what we should be discussing.

[Typhoid]

I'm honestly confused as to what we should be discussing.

But in your view, why is socialism a bad idea?

So far, the only person who actually got it, is Babsy. He didnt link or quote anything. He just gave his personal view.


Bond, I'm not talking healthcare only. I was using that as an example, clearly.

[Bond]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

So far, the only person who actually got it, is Babsy. He didnt link or quote anything. He just gave his personal view.


Bond, I'm not talking healthcare only. I was using that as an example, clearly.

Interesting... well, my personal opinion is that socialism is a bad idea based upon its historical, economic, and moral implications that arise from such a philosophy.

[Professor S]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

So far, the only person who actually got it, is Babsy. He didnt link or quote anything. He just gave his personal view.

Um, how did my first post not "get it"? I answered the question as it was asked, and so did Bond. He has nothing to apologize for.

You asked out thoughts on socialism, but you seem to think socialism is just a few socialist ideas, and this is incorrect. if you wanted to know our thought on European social democracies, you should have asked that question. You didn't.

Bond, I'm not talking healthcare only. I was using that as an example, clearly.

That wasn't clear at all, honestly. Public Schools would have been a far better example to defend your point.

[Typhoid]

Originally Posted by Professor S

Um, how did my first post not "get it"? I answered the question as it was asked, and so did Bond. He has nothing to apologize for.

You asked out thoughts on socialism, but you seem to think socialism is just a few socialist ideas, and this is incorrect. if you wanted to know our thought on European social democracies, you should have asked that question. You didn't.



That wasn't clear at all, honestly. Public Schools would have been a far better example to defend your point.

I missed the "From a post I made" part at the top. Not too good for multitask, plenty good for pretty.

but you seem to think socialism is just a few socialist ideas, and this is incorrect.

Stupidly commenting on this because an argument is bound to ensue - I'm aware of what socialism is. As I said. I am asking what peoples opinions are on socialism. From the broad, to the minute. What do you think of it as a whole, what do you think of specific ideas. Are you for/against - why? What ideas do you like, why/why not. That type of thing.

Also, I never told Bond to apologize.

And I was asking the opinion on the socialism that is all the rage now in the news. I figured it would be pretty obvious I wasn't talking Communism or any form of Marxism. I honestly thought it was fairly blatent that I was talking the type of socialism that the media is so afraid will happen in the U.S.

[Professor S]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

Stupidly commenting on this because an argument is bound to ensue - I'm aware of what socialism is. As I said. I am asking what peoples opinions are on socialism. From the broad, to the minute. What do you think of it as a whole, what do you think of specific ideas. Are you for/against - why? What ideas do you like, why/why not. That type of thing.

Ok, as whole (government policy) I think socialism is dehumanizing and inevitably crushes those it aims to help under it's own weight and devolves rather quickly into a authoritarian regime with few human rights.

As individual structures, I think it can work for small things when run locally, like in the public school system, but the larger it gets, the more unwieldy and ineffectual it becomes.

And I was asking the opinion on the socialism that is all the rage now in the news. I figured it would be pretty obvious I wasn't talking Communism or any form of Marxism. I honestly thought it was fairly blatent that I was talking the type of socialism that the media is so afraid will happen in the U.S.

Ok, but just to clarify, do you think either Bond or myself were referencing communism in our original posts?

[Typhoid]

Originally Posted by Professor S

Ok, but just to clarify, do you think either Bond or myself were referencing communism in our original posts?

No, but since there was mass confusion, I was blocking every other confusion-point I could.

[Professor S]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

No, but since there was mass confusion, I was blocking every other confusion-point I could.

Was my above opinion satisfactory?