The RPG Thread

[TheGame]

Originally Posted by DarkMaster

No one takes risks to try and create new and original titles now. Remember when shit like Xenogears just came out of nowhere? Vagrant Story? Suikoden? RPGs would just release out of the blue and you'd be like "yeah, looks cool, I'll try it out" and they were pretty much all awesome. Companies were more interested in developing new franchises than regurgitating the same shit with better graphics.

There's a lot of pressure these days to create highly cinematic video games that rival hollywood films, and as the industry becomes more mainstream, so too does it lose more of its soul.

I agree with you 110%. I miss Psx...

[BreakABone]

Originally Posted by TheGame

I agree with you 110%. I miss Psx...

Justin... Justin my friend... you need to keep one line of thinking

http://gametavern.net/forums/showpos...26&postcount=8

You are one of the people causing the problem. :P

You celebrate games like MGS 4... not saying it is bad or anything, but it is one of the main franchises that has been going more and more Hollywood.

There needs to be a nice balance between going Hollywood like some of the bigger franchises and going back to their arcade roots like some of the Wii games.

Hmm... gives me an idea

[Professor S]

I think RPG's lost the mainstream when the technology didn't favor them anymore. The heyday of the RPG was the PSX generation with epic titles such as FF7 that really leveraged the cinematics available in the format to push the story and give the titles a real wow factor. The gameplay technology itself wasn't that impressive, but wow... those cinematics and special power cut scenes were mind blowing at the time.

Now technology is at the point that you can have those kind of wow moments in game and have that same kind of storytelling power in any genre of gaming, not just a 100 hr long turn based RPG, or even choose when and where you WANT to take a turn by pausing the action. A game is as turn based as you'd like it to be. If you want to really think about it, Mass Effect is really the eastern style RPG v. 2.0... and I like it.

On a side note, we also have to include the mainstreaming of video gaming as it has progressed from a youth-based and "hardcore" pastime to something the whole family participates in as the youth have grown and had kids that they share their love of gaming with. Hence the rapid growth of casual gaming in importance.

[TheGame]

Originally Posted by BreakABone

Justin... Justin my friend... you need to keep one line of thinking

http://gametavern.net/forums/showpos...26&postcount=8

You are one of the people causing the problem. :P

You celebrate games like MGS 4... not saying it is bad or anything, but it is one of the main franchises that has been going more and more Hollywood.

I don't see any contradiction there whatsoever.

MGS2 and MGS3.. and MGS1 all were driven by their long cutscenes and codec conversations. MGS4 just stuck to its roots, and just needed a lot more cutscenes to wrap up a very complex story. MGS4 was built more for the hardcore fans of the series then it was for mainstream.. even though it was advertised like it was mainstream, every person I know who wasn't a fan of the series didn't enjoy the game much.

-EDIT-

By the way, I didn't buy MGS4 (yet).. I haven't even bought a Ps3 or 360, I'm just lucky enough to be able to leech them off of other people whenever I really want to. So if buying something is adding to the problem, then don't blame me! (til tomorrow anyway. )

Not saying my own buying habits won't add to the issues. Every game I'm even considering buying are sequals. Everything else is rent first buy later.