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Old 10-30-2009, 07:45 PM   #1
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Clarification of what is and isn't news on Fox News:

The Daily Show With Jon StewartMon - Thurs 11p / 10c
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And touches on MSNBC at the end.
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Hannity uses old footage to make Health Care protest seem bigger...
Old 11-11-2009, 01:03 PM   #2
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Citing no sources and using old footage to back his claim, Hannity estimates that 20,000-45,000 people attended a Fox-promoted GOP health care reform protest.

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Re: Hannity uses old footage to make Health Care protest seem bigger...
Old 11-11-2009, 01:18 PM   #3
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Default Re: Hannity uses old footage to make Health Care protest seem bigger...

Haha, still waiting for Prof to post some fake news from MSNBC.
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Old 11-11-2009, 03:40 PM   #4
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I didn't post any because I didn't look for any, nor will I (I caved in, see the edit below). It's irrelevant to the core of the discussion. The argument has never been a pissing contest between who is more biased as they are both VERY biased... it's about the recognition of bias, which no one seems to want to do when it comes to MSNBC, or they do so reluctantly, but they immediately jump on FoxNews as if they invented and are the sole proprietor of bias. It's about hipocrisy, not which violator violated more than the other.

And in an argument involving bias, I find sourcing The Daily Show for evidence to be hilariously ironic.

EDIT: Out of curiosity I googled "msnbc lies" and found a few items, but once again, it's off topic. I'd recommend it for anyone who is reading this thread with an open mind and is interested in comparing bias. To me comparing the level of bias of FoxNews and MSNBC is like comparing the level of genocide of Hitler and Stalin. The answer is meaningless due to the severity of crimes on both sides.
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Old 11-11-2009, 07:50 PM   #5
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Aww I wanted you to do it for entertainment value. As Mr. Colbert said.. reality has a well known liberal bias. So its hard for real news not to sound bias!

By the way, lets not attack the messangers, and attack the message. Who cares if Jon Stewart noticed the flaw in their reporting. If any other reporter, comedian, or drunk person caught it, it would not change the underlying facts. And these are not opinions that are being slanted, they're lying and presenting these things as facts.

I have a lot more examples of Fox being biased on their 'news' in my bag. I don't even think MSNBC compares.
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Old 11-12-2009, 09:03 AM   #6
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Aww I wanted you to do it for entertainment value. As Mr. Colbert said.. reality has a well known liberal bias. So its hard for real news not to sound bias!
And yes, I find sourcing Colbert in a discussion on bias to be hilariously ironic as well. Do you often confuse satire with facts? How many other comedians do you get your news from? Does Dane Cook give you weather reports?

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By the way, lets not attack the messangers, and attack the message. Who cares if Jon Stewart noticed the flaw in their reporting. If any other reporter, comedian, or drunk person caught it, it would not change the underlying facts. And these are not opinions that are being slanted, they're lying and presenting these things as facts.

I have a lot more examples of Fox being biased on their 'news' in my bag. I don't even think MSNBC compares.
As I said, if you want to continue to make a meaningless comparison, continue to do so. There are plenty of examples on both sides if you want to have a fair mind about the comparison, but you don't want to have a fair mind, you simply want to "win" regardless of if your comments have any bearing on the conversation at hand (you tend to do this a lot). You want to argue your world view, damn the topic being discussed, inconvenient facts or objective thought.

Just please realize that you do so only to excuse the fact that the news source you sympathize with is biased (self-delusion is a character trait I can't stomach). Pointing out the bias of another source does not excuse the bias of the one you happen to like. Thats the only point I've made in the entirety of our discussion and a point you have yet to address in any meaningful way. Instead you continue to attack Fox instead of answering to the points I've raised. In effect, you're the best example I could wish for to defend my assertions!

Game, you are the case in point; exhibit "A", if you will. Thank you for illustrating my argument so well by simply existing.

Here's a concession to hopefully get you to focus on the conversation at hand: FoxNews is more biased than MSNBC. Now can you actually address the points I've brought up?
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Old 11-12-2009, 11:03 AM   #7
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Well, personally I think you're simply avoiding posting any slanted news reported by MSNBC because you can't find it. That's just my theory until you post some. And I do have a fair mind about it, I don't really trust MSNBC either. They just don't try to twist facts to purposely be misleading as fox does on their real 'news' programs.

So you can keep avoiding it if you chose, I just am opening up the forum for us to laugh at MSNBC as we laugh at fox. If its really compareable...

I just don't think it is compareable, except on its opinion shows. And you really haven't posted anything to sway me otherwise.
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