Thinking of selling my Wii, try and convince me not to

[manasecret]

I have to agree with BaB here, the hardcore term is pretty dumb. It means a million different things to a million different people, usually shunted to mean "I'm a true gamer; those people are not." If you don't like a game, you don't like a game.

For example, for you Combine, all you have to say is you prefer M rated violent games. That's it. The hardcore term just muddles up what you're saying, and ends up meaning nothing.

As for the 20 best-selling Wii titles that Moogle posted, I see what you're saying that you want depth and longevity in a game. First, I'd argue more games in that list do have longevity, but that's not my point. My point is that there are plenty of games with depth and longevity that are not in the top-20 best-selling list that you conveniently ignored. Need I list them? I think BaB has over and over, and I think everyone knows them, but they tend to ignore them when it comes to these arguments.

In your case, I think your rant boils down to two things -- neither of which is that Nintendo stopped making games for the "hardcore" gamer. Looking at your choice of BlazBlue and L4D1, I think simply, 1. You're mad that you feel Smash was dumbed down, and, 2. Your tastes have moved on since Nintendo never made games like L4D1.

[TheSlyMoogle]

Originally Posted by manasecret

I have to agree with BaB here, the hardcore term is pretty dumb. It means a million different things to a million different people, usually shunted to mean "I'm a true gamer; those people are not." If you don't like a game, you don't like a game.

For example, for you Combine, all you have to say is you prefer M rated violent games. That's it. The hardcore term just muddles up what you're saying, and ends up meaning nothing.

As for the 20 best-selling Wii titles that Moogle posted, I see what you're saying that you want depth and longevity in a game. First, I'd argue more games in that list do have longevity, but that's not my point. My point is that there are plenty of games with depth and longevity that are not in the top-20 best-selling list that you conveniently ignored. Need I list them? I think BaB has over and over, and I think everyone knows them, but they tend to ignore them when it comes to these arguments.

In your case, I think your rant boils down to two things -- neither of which is that Nintendo stopped making games for the "hardcore" gamer. Looking at your choice of BlazBlue and L4D1, I think simply, 1. You're mad that you feel Smash was dumbed down, and, 2. Your tastes have moved on since Nintendo never made games like L4D1.

Top 20 best list was merely posted to show that the majority of games holding up the wii are games that were already staples, or games that use the mii as your character, and those don't really have much depth.

Also I hate smash, I've always hated it really. I just understand where the game used to be depth and skill wise, and i know what nintendo did to it without any reason really other than it was unintentional for them to give it that depth. It upset the serious "Smash" community who actually legitimately played the game in tournaments. There really wasn't a reason for nintendo to remove the glitches in the game, and they put no effort into balancing the game at all, which would have been the least they could have done. It's just a money grabber.

Also you're right, my tastes have moved on I suppose. You can't stay a little kid forever, and I suppose nintendo lost a lot of it's good 3rd party support way back in the day when they stayed carts and everyone else went disc.


Which is fine, I used to be gung ho nintendo leet. I changed quite a bit.

The wii is still a good system, it has fun games for a lot of people obviously or it wouldn't be doing so well. You're right it's no longer for me, and I sold mine because it hadn't been used since about 3 weeks after smash dropped and I wasn't even playing smash lol. Nintendo mostly shifted directions, that's all, and I twisted in the opposite way. For real though I feel bad that a lot of the games I enjoyed for 64 and GC sorta disappeared. I know a lot of it is because companies ended contracts with nintendo, or they went under... I don't know guess that's not nintendo's fault. Lol.

/ramble

I said I wasn't going to post in this thread again. Damn.

[Vampyr]

My primary reason for saying not to sell it is I just don't like to sell things I already own. You almost always lose money on the transaction, and there's always a possibility something will happen to make you say "man, I wish I had ____ again." I already made the choice to spend money on something, so I'm going to stick with that decision.

I also love the Wii for the virtual console. I never had a SNES as a kid, and it's great to get to play some of those games on a TV (main reason I dislike roms).

Originally Posted by TheSlyMoogle

Also I hate smash, I've always hated it really. I just understand where the game used to be depth and skill wise, and i know what nintendo did to it without any reason really other than it was unintentional for them to give it that depth. It upset the serious "Smash" community who actually legitimately played the game in tournaments. There really wasn't a reason for nintendo to remove the glitches in the game, and they put no effort into balancing the game at all, which would have been the least they could have done. It's just a money grabber.

This is true. I was so excited for Brawl, it was the first game I picked up on the Wii.

I could never get into it. Melee was one of my favorite games ever, as was the first Smash. There was just something different about Brawl. I was quite good at Melee, if I do say so myself, but Brawl seemed to introduce such a high level of randomness into matches that it wasn't worth taking the time to get better at. Not to mention the online is atrocious, and even when playing offline, I was felt like there was a very, very small amount of delay between when I pressed a button and when my avatar actually did something. It was tiny, but it was enough for me to notice, especially given how perfect I had gotten my timing in Melee.