Political Rhetoric: Gone Fascist?

[TheGame]

Originally Posted by Professor S

No, the President is still somewhat popular. It's his policies, particularly on healthcare, that the people disagree with. Look at how his numbers have jumped back up since he put healthcare on the backburner.

If you want to put this all on healthcare.. Lets not forget to point out that his peak of agreement was when he was elected and seemed to be a strong progressive, and his peak of disagreement was when he decided to stop backing the public option.

Also, keep in mind that he's just NOW starting to reveal the fact that 1.2 trillion of the deficit is the right wing's creation. Somehow I think pointing out facts like this for the first time may help people understand him.

So what ACTION has Obama done to lead to these numbers? Besides not pushing for the progressive agenda he set out to do in the first place.

[Professor S]

I just want to add, to Pres. Obama's credit he does not agree with the trend I've noticed in these pundits/commentators. His rhetoric has softened lately and I think he understands the need to bring all parties together, or at least close enough together to get something accomplished in his second year. You attract more bees with honey than vinegar.

[Professor S]

Looking back at it, perhaps my background in communications has made me hypercritical of commentary made in frustration but without real malice. But when pundits and social commentators even half-joke about ignoring the separation of powers, it makes my skins crawl a little.

[Typhoid]

I think the big reason why people aren't impressed with Obama so far is that he was seemingly promising everything without actually saying what that "everything" was.

You do have to realize what he stepped into, with the war etc. I'm not putting everything on that, obviously.

But realistically - what has he done wrong? Tried to appease the Republicans? Wanted to improve healthcare?

He's trying to be so damn accommodating to the Republicans that nothing is really getting done, and nothing will likely get done in the forseeable future. He's been trying to play it directly down the middle as the catalyst in what will make Democrats and Republicans get along, but in the end he's just completely decimating the Democrats, and playing right into what the Republicans want.

Personally, I think he needs to suck it up, grow some balls and not be so afraid of backlash on things that would improve your country.


Edit: And short answer, no. I don't think anything is even close to fascist. I don't even think that's worth talking about or mentioning.

Double Edit: If you really want to talk about 'fascism', take a look at what's going on in the Canadian Government right now, and then what Obama's apparently doing will look like absolutely nothing.

[Teuthida]

Originally Posted by Professor S

You attract more bees with honey than vinegar.

I never got that saying. Don't the bees make the honey? Would they really buy back their own product?



There's another forum I belong to where the topics of politics and religion aren't allowed to be discussed. Nice and peaceful there. Just saying...

[BreakABone]

Originally Posted by Teuthida

I never got that saying. Don't the bees make the honey? Would they really buy back their own product?



There's another forum I belong to where the topics of politics and religion aren't allowed to be discussed. Nice and peaceful there. Just saying...

Actually had a similar discussion with my friend yesterday

I mean attracting bees with honey would be like forcing a cow to drink milk I would think.