The Pope Covered Up Pedophile Priests

[TheSlyMoogle]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

This situation reminds me 100% of the South Park episode though. Good times.

Wait wait wait wait wait! You mean you all molest children?

LOL.

This is a sticky situation though. Dirty old priests.

Of course no one wants to protest this by leaving the catholic church, because being catholic is a sweet deal. Oh I fucked up, but I told my priest, now all is forgiven.

[Vampyr]

Good old religion.

[KillerGremlin]

How can you live with yourself if you're the priest doing these things? I mean, serious question. Either you're a pedophile or a believer, I cannot believe that some priests are both. If you are a believer and you're raping little boys, I can only imagine how terrified of death you must be.

[The Germanator]

Originally Posted by TheSlyMoogle

This is a sticky situation though.

That's what the Priests said.

[Typhoid]

Good old religion.

Religion doesn't make people molest children. It would be ridiculous if that's even what you're insinuating.

How can you live with yourself if you're the priest doing these things?

Because I can confidently assume that the ones who molest children probably wanted to be a priest just for the sole fact they are attracted to little boys - and what better way to get close to them and gain the trust of the family other than being a priest.

[Vampyr]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

Religion doesn't make people molest children. It would be ridiculous if that's even what you're insinuating.

No, that's not what I'm insinuating. I'm just saying it's one more of a multitude of reasons why we would be better off without religion.

[Professor S]

Originally Posted by Vampyr

No, that's not what I'm insinuating.

Ok...

I'm just saying it's one more of a multitude of reasons why we would be better off without religion.

How does that statement NOT insinuate that religion causes child molestation?

[Vampyr]

Originally Posted by Professor S

Ok...



How does that statement NOT insinuate that religion causes child molestation?

Without religion you wouldn't have had these people in this situation. You wouldn't have people being tricked into thinking that living a celibate life is somehow moral, and you wouldn't have people trusting their kids to some stranger who has no legitimate reason to be trusted with them - other than that they are supposedly close to some invisible guy in the sky.

Religion didn't make them molest children - but it presented a scenario which shouldn't exist: child molesters who are deemed trustworthy because they believe in something non-existent (or at least say that they do), and a huge, powerful organization which is also founded on something non-existent that protects them.

[Professor S]

Originally Posted by Vampyr

Without religion you wouldn't have had these people in this situation. You wouldn't have people being tricked into thinking that living a celibate life is somehow moral, and you wouldn't have people trusting their kids to some stranger who has no legitimate reason to be trusted with them - other than that they are supposedly close to some invisible guy in the sky.

Religion didn't make them molest children - but it presented a scenario which shouldn't exist: child molesters who are deemed trustworthy because they believe in something non-existent (or at least say that they do), and a huge, powerful organization which is also founded on something non-existent that protects them.

Good points. Your criticisms were more aimed at the organization of religion rather than the belief structure, and that is surely a valid argument.

[Typhoid]

Originally Posted by Vampyr

No, that's not what I'm insinuating. I'm just saying it's one more of a multitude of reasons why we would be better off without religion.

These people would molest children regardless of religion.
That's like blaming Marilyn Manson's music (or even music in general) for the Columbine shootings.

[TheGame]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

These people would molest children regardless of religion.
That's like blaming Marilyn Manson's music (or even music in general) for the Columbine shootings.

Even though I don't agree with Vamp.. I'd say his example is more like blaming public/private schooling for the shootings at columbine.

If there were no public schools, there would be no place for these kids to do such an insane act of terror.. And if there was no religion, there'd be no pedophile priests that people trust their kids with.

So with that said... I don't agree with Vamp. lol

[Typhoid]

I'd say his example is more like blaming public/private schooling for the shootings at columbine.

The reason I said what I said is because people did blame Marilyn Manson's music for the shootings at Columbine.

But yes, yours is much more apt than mine is.

[Vampyr]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

These people would molest children regardless of religion.
That's like blaming Marilyn Manson's music (or even music in general) for the Columbine shootings.

Yes, they probably would, but a huge difference is that one of the most powerful organizations in the world wouldn't be helping to cover up for them, nor would they have such a ready supply of victims being practically handed to them.

Even though I don't agree with Vamp.. I'd say his example is more like blaming public/private schooling for the shootings at columbine.

If there were no public schools, there would be no place for these kids to do such an insane act of terror.. And if there was no religion, there'd be no pedophile priests that people trust their kids with.

So with that said... I don't agree with Vamp. lol

I wouldn't really carry it that far - there is risk associated with everything. I think the world benefits from having public schools far more than it would without them - even though it provides a venue for crazy people to hurt others. Not only that, but officials have begun to realize the dangers of having a lot of helpless kids and teenagers in a centralized location with other possibly mental and easily influenced children. The result is better security, metal detectors, etc.

Organized religion, on the other hand, I don't see how the world has benefited from it more than it has suffered.

I don't think religion is innately evil - if I did I would have very few friends and hate my parents. But for whatever reason people are inspired to organize around things they find important, so it happens with religion as well. I was talking to a friend at work about it the other day - he's a very religious person, but he hasn't been to church once in 2010, and he was talking about how he's happier than he has been in a very long time.