Buyng a Gun

[TheGame]

That's not bad, but step 0 is to already have an extremely loud alarm system that sounds off whenever any doors or windows are opened... especially if you're in a 2 story house. If the alarm goes off, then follow the steps you listed... if the alarm doesn't go off, then quit being scared and go down and comfront whatever you feel the threat may be.

If you don't trust your alarm system to efficiently tell when your house has been breached, then get a better alarm system.

If you're still afraid to see what went bump in the night, take kick boxing classes.

BTW, I also want a gun.

[Combine 017]

I like the SAIGA, excellent in the event of a full scale zombie apocalypse.
It also looks bad ass, just needs a rifle scope.

The revolvers barrel is too short and it looks stupid.
If your going to get a revolver go all out and get the one Dirty Harry uses.

[uber_paddler]

If I had a gun it would be one like Vash the Stampede uses. Unfortunately, I don't think it's even mechanically possible.

[Fox 6]

No offense, but if you are in a situation where you are contemplating scenarios about serial rapists or home invaders coming into your home, maybe you live in a bad place in general.

[Professor S]

Originally Posted by Fox 6

No offense, but if you are in a situation where you are contemplating scenarios about serial rapists or home invaders coming into your home, maybe you live in a bad place in general.

Home invasions can happen anywhere. My parents have been robbed three times (in over 30 years) and they live in Thornton, PA. If it doesn't have the lowest crime rate in the country, its close.

Its not a matter of where, but when. As Typh said, it will happen eventually, but most likely when no one is home. I just worry about the times when we're home. Again, I hope I never have to touch the thing.

According to a report by the United States Department of Justice, 38% of assaults and 60% of rapes occur in the home during an invasion.

There are some startling statistics and facts about home invasion in the United States. It is estimated that in the U.S. at least one property related crime occurs every three seconds. In the United States there were over 3,600,000 each year between 1994 and 2005. Statistics Canada reported over 289,200 per year in the last five years. Statistically there are over 8000 reported home invasions each and every day across North America.

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[Vampyr]

I'd like to move to a place where it doesn't happen.

I think the shotgun is a good choice - my only qualm is if you miss you're going to do some serious damage to your house.

I would still consider getting ADT, though, if you don't have it already. Most thieves are extremely scared of getting caught, and just the sign outside will be enough to deter them, let alone if an alarm went off.

[Dylflon]

A thought just occurred. You could be like a normal person and get a dog.


Not only will dogs protect your home but they love you so much! Dogs are a burglary deterrent and a good weapon should burglary not be deterred.


Edit: or a dog and a revolver.

I think buying shotguns for home defense is an icky idea...the mess...

I'm curious as to why our thoughts of home invasion defense are so different? Alarm system and/or dog instantly springs to my mind...not so much firearms. Maybe a blunt weapon.

I don't think it's the fact that I don't have a wife and kid that makes me different. If I had kids I definitely would not want a gun in my house.
Maybe it comes down to our respective levels of paranoia. I currently have no alarm system and my dog just died yet I still manage to sleep just fine at night.

[Typhoid]

Originally Posted by Dylflon

A thought just occurred. You could be like a normal person and get a dog.


Not only will dogs protect your home but they love you so much! Dogs are a burglary deterrent and a good weapon should burglary not be deterred.

If only that dog could kill other people with bullets.

We need some genetic modification, here.

Either that, or we need to find a way to make guns love you.

[Fox 6]

Originally Posted by Vampyr

I think the shotgun is a good choice - my only qualm is if you miss you're going to do some serious damage to your house.

Even if he hits hes going to do damage to his house.

[KillerGremlin]

For practicality: the Taurus

For fun: The Mossberg

I figure if you're going to buy it you are going to educate/practice using it. If you're taking it to a range might as well go with the gun that will provide the most satisfaction.

I don't know much about guns, but you can load the 12 gauge with shells that have buckshot and shells that fire a single bullet, correct? I think that gives the gun versatility.

Also, my understanding is that shotguns are less lethal at range than a pistol, especially a magnum firing big ass .45 caliber rounds. Frankly, I'd rather be shot at with the shotgun....

Also, fuck this pacifism shit. If someone is poking around in your house uninvited, I say they deserve to get shot. And that's not sarcasm. This is America, not Canada. When people break in bad things happen. Getting a gun is on my to-do list, once I get some money and a more permanent place to call home.

Originally Posted by Typhoid

I can see it now, some crackhead breaks into your house armed with one of your lamps, and you blow him to pieces with a mossberg. What's that, 20-life for murder?

Even if you did get 20 years...it would be a cool, calm 20 years...knowing your wife and kid/s are safe.

[Fox 6]

Originally Posted by KillerGremlin

Even if you did get 20 years...it would be a cool, calm 20 years...knowing your wife and kid/s are safe.

But then you'd be sleepless every night in prison wondering if a rapists has broken into your house to get your wife :P

[KillerGremlin]

Originally Posted by TheGame

That's not bad, but step 0 is to already have an extremely loud alarm system that sounds off whenever any doors or windows are opened... especially if you're in a 2 story house. If the alarm goes off, then follow the steps you listed... if the alarm doesn't go off, then quit being scared and go down and comfront whatever you feel the threat may be.

If you don't trust your alarm system to efficiently tell when your house has been breached, then get a better alarm system.

If you're still afraid to see what went bump in the night, take kick boxing classes.

BTW, I also want a gun.

We have an alarm system...we never set it/use it. I maintain alarm systems are used when people go on vacation and as plot devices in horror movies.

[Typhoid]

Even if you did get 20 years...it would be a cool, calm 20 years...knowing your wife and kid/s are safe.

Assuming someone else doesn't try break in during the 20 years you're in prison, which is likely considering - as stated before - it's likely to happen based on numbers alone to each person in the US every 14 years.

[KillerGremlin]

Originally Posted by Fox 6

But then you'd be sleepless every night in prison wondering if a rapists has broken into your house to get your wife :P

If I had guns in my home I'd make sure my wife was educated in how to use them.

I'm not pro-imposing guns on people. I am all for alternative forms of home security; whatever makes you feel safe, you know? For me, personally, I want to get into guns mostly as a hobby. I wouldn't mind learning how to use a firearm at a shooting range and turning that into a hobby. A lot of cool engineering goes into firearms and overall it is a legit sport/hobby. For me, I'd probably keep a small firearm in my home just because you never know what is going to happen. I would pray that I would never ever be in a situation where I would have to use the weapon, especially against another human being. I don't know if I could live with myself after having to defend myself. I'd definitely need some therapy. But at the end of the day, having a hobby and being able to defend yourself sounds like a win-win to me.

[gekko]

Originally Posted by Professor S

There is a "no retreat" law in PA, I believe. If someone breaks into my house, I can kill them if they do not exit the home when given the chance.

Just curious how that one will look in court.

Judge: "Did you ask the intruder to leave before firing?"
You: "Of course."
Judge: "Did anyone witness you saying this?"
You: "Yep, the intruder did."

Seems hard to prove. Regardless, I'd recommend the shotgun. Your goal is not to find the best weapon to clear a house with, but find the best weapon to get an intruder to leave your house. Shotguns have a psychological factor to them like you wouldn't believe. Simply listening to a pump action shotgun (even empty) will likely be more effective than a much more dangerous weapon. And of course, if you need to shoot, it'll do its job.