In Westboro I was born and raised...

[Angrist]

I don't think churches are judging. They're just holding onto standards that they find in the Bible.
Hmm, maybe some churches do. That's especially hard to swallow when they tolerate other recurring sins. I agree that it's very hypocritical.

[Professor S]

What is the logic in even making the statement that servicemen are dying because of gays? Were they dying during peace time when gay dude were cavorting? There is no sense to this. They are simply evil people.

[KillerGremlin]

I like where Angrist is coming from....

Why do we need to try to mold religion to fit our new, logical ways of thinking in society? Why not just ditch the religion part in our new, logical ways of thinking.

[Typhoid]

If the Bible teaches that practizing homosexuality is wrong,

I don't think born-gay people are really practicing. I think they've pretty much got it down professionally.

And Angrist, I'm not adressing you with this, it's just in the same post for the record:

And just for shits, I'm going to say this about the bible and homosexuality:


Homosexuality has been around forever. The Romans and Greeks were highly open with sexuality, and often men would get with men to close business deals, or as favours, for lack of a better word.

Basically the only reason it's viewed as evil to be gay, is because homosexuality doesn't produce offspring. Which means gay people give nothing to the church, because they can't create more followers.

[Angrist]

Originally Posted by KillerGremlin

Why do we need to try to mold religion to fit our new, logical ways of thinking in society? Why not just ditch the religion part in our new, logical ways of thinking.

Not sure if you were joking or if you really agree with me, but if you really believe in God, you'll probably believe that what he wants for us doesn't chance. If practicing homosexuality was wrong 2 millennia ago, it's wrong now.

And Typhoid, you're right. There's a difference between having feelings and practicing them.

[Vampyr]

Originally Posted by Angrist

Not sure if you were joking or if you really agree with me, but if you really believe in God, you'll probably believe that what he wants for us doesn't chance. If practicing homosexuality was wrong 2 millennia ago, it's wrong now.

And Typhoid, you're right. There's a difference between having feelings and practicing them.

Didn't quite a lot change from the Old Testament to the New Testament?

And other things have changed from when the New Testament was written til now - it's no longer considered right or ethical to own slaves, for example.

I think every religious person ultimately ends up cherry picking the things they like and disregarding the things they don't. Religious homosexual people ignore the part that says it's wrong. Religious people who don't believe in slavery ignore that part. Everyone seems to ignore the book of Job.

Maybe 'ignore' isn't the right word, though. It's more like people want to gloss over the things they don't like, or just say "oh, it was a different time". But for some reason they can't let others do that to the things they do like.

[Professor S]

Originally Posted by Angrist

Not sure if you were joking or if you really agree with me, but if you really believe in God, you'll probably believe that what he wants for us doesn't chance. If practicing homosexuality was wrong 2 millennia ago, it's wrong now.

And Typhoid, you're right. There's a difference between having feelings and practicing them.

Again, what does that have to do with protesting at military funerals? Its ok to believe whatever you want to believe, but when you literally terrorize innocents that makes you an evil, disgusting person and is very much AGAINST Christian belief.

I hope they are REALLY surprised when they die and are greeted with their own special cubicle in Hell.

[KillerGremlin]

Originally Posted by Angrist

Not sure if you were joking or if you really agree with me, but if you really believe in God, you'll probably believe that what he wants for us doesn't chance. If practicing homosexuality was wrong 2 millennia ago, it's wrong now.

And Typhoid, you're right. There's a difference between having feelings and practicing them.

I don't agree with you, per se. I respect that you are firm in your position regarding religion. You're not like the masses of people who want their cake (afterlife) and want to eat it too (druggin', sexin', not going to church ever, being gay, etc.).

Now if only we can apply your logic to the real world, I think we'd have a lot less religious people or a lot less annoying druggin', sexin' posers at mass every Easter and Christmas.

[TheSlyMoogle]

Hmm I wonder how long it will be before religion is mostly obsolete?

OR before some new religion basically replaces christianity?