Buyng a Gun

[Typhoid]

Originally Posted by Professor S

Ok, but I don't live in Canada, and to be honest my scenarios have nothing to do with nationality. These are situations that could happen to anyone, anywhere. In those scenarios, do you believe the response is legitimate, or not. If not, what would be your alternative.

I'm well aware you don't live in Canada.
I do. Which is why I, and Dylan have a different view on these things.


Because when you said:

Could you give me feedback on the situations I detailed earlier? After much thought, I think these are realistic expectations to real life situations.

I thought "Wait a minute, that's not a realistic situation or response for me, I better explain why in order to make it valid", so I said:

Why don't we just take it as the fact I live in Vancouver, Canada - and you live in the U.S....It's maybe not that I'm twisting my entire idea of the scenario itself, but rather the scenario itself is not likely to happen here.

Those situations could happen anywhere, sure. Just like at any moment a Jumbo Jet can smash through anyones house at any given time.
But realistically, no - that scenario isn't likely to happen everywhere.

Like I was trying to say - our view is different on this because A) Guns are illegal, so people who break in don't have them - because people don't defend their houses with them B) People here don't break in with intent to kill, maim or rape - they break in with intent to steal shit and will flee if you wake up, or they hear your voice.

I don't know why you seem to think Canada is the same as the US in this aspect, but you're mistaken. We have crime, and we have murder. But not like that. We use alarm systems for our cars, and houses. They work just fine.

Nobody I know who has an alarm has ever been broken into, and nobody I know has ever had the thought "I need a gun to protect my family because someone might try to murder or rape them." It doesn't happen here.

Like I said, difference of opinion based on the likelihood of situations.

[Professor S]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

Nobody I know who has an alarm has ever been broken into, and nobody I know has ever had the thought "I need a gun to protect my family because someone might try to murder or rape them." It doesn't happen here.

Like I said, difference of opinion based on the likelihood of situations.

Typhoid, at this point I just think you're trying to avoid the question I asked. I asked you to respond to pretty specific scenarios, but you still seem stuck on location for some reason, so lets try this one:

Imagine you do live in America and as the stats I linked point out, people DO break in to assault and rape. Now what do you think about the scenarios I provided. Are they reasonable responses considering the situation?

[Typhoid]

Originally Posted by Professor S

Typhoid, at this point I just think you're trying to avoid the question I asked. I asked you to respond to pretty specific scenarios, but you still seem stuck on location for some reason, so lets try this one:

Imagine you do live in America and as the stats I linked point out, people DO break in to assault and rape. Now what do you think about the scenarios I provided. Are they reasonable responses considering the situation?

To be fair when you asked before you never said "Imagine you live in the US" you just said "Imagine if this is happening" which I can't do, because it's not probable for me.


Would I buy a gun to protect my family if I lived in the US? No. Maybe if I was getting broken into constantly, and the alarm system and deadbolt/latches clearly weren't doing their proper job - maybe I'd buy a gun, yes. But just as a "Hey, it could happen" type thing, I wouldn't. I stand firm on my comment of "guns are for hunting."

However assuming breaking and entering where murder and rape are common things, which they apparently are - I would move. What better way to protect your family from getting killed or raped than removing them from the situation itself.

I'd maybe like to mention that RCMP do in fact shoot to kill.

RCMP aren't 'cops'. They're the 'special cops'. I meant normal police officers.

[TheSlyMoogle]

Uhm...

I'm a bit more worried about the danger that having this gun poses on your family.

I mean, sometimes you take all the steps to make sure little (whatever you're naming your kid) has no way to get his/her hands on the gun, but kids will surprise you and are much smarter than you think.

Also what if you were to accidentally shoot a member of your family while defending them from someone? I mean an unlikely scenario, but it could happen, especially with proposed shotgun.

Besides I just don't see the effectiveness of a gun. What I can see being more effective is some type of panic room. Sure they steal everything you own, but at least you keep your lives.

[Combine 017]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

I'm well aware you don't live in Canada.
I do. Which is why I, and Dylan have a different view on these things.

I live in Canada too, im just down the street from you guys, but im fine with people owning guns. I plan to acquire one at some point in my life. Its just a lot harder to do in Canada.

[Typhoid]

Originally Posted by Combine 017

I live in Canada too, im just down the street from you guys, but im fine with people owning guns. I plan to acquire one at some point in my life. Its just a lot harder to do in Canada.

Which of the following do you plan to acquire a gun for though, Adam:

A) As a conversation piece
B) Just to have one
C) For hunting purposes
D) Because you're afraid someone might rape and kill your family


Edit: For clarification, the reason me and Dylan are against owning guns that are not for hunting is the following:

As soon as people have guns in their homes for protection (or any other purposes, really) people will start bringing guns to breaking and entering scenarios. They won't bring a knife to a gun fight. Guns beget guns, and then the cycle never ends, as we can see with the way it is in the US.

[Combine 017]

Originally Posted by Typhoid

Which of the following do you plan to acquire a gun for though, Adam:

A) As a conversation piece
B) Just to have one
C) For hunting purposes
D) Because you're afraid someone might rape and kill your family

A, B, and I guess D.
Not really into the murdering of innocent animals minding their own business.

Mainly to bring to a range and test out my mad skillz.
Around my place though id want a gun more so to protect my family from wild animals such as bears and cougars, not so much worried about someone breaking into my house.