The Motion Controls War

[manasecret]

I'm all for motion controls, especially as they get perfected. They make many games a lot more intuitive. And it's not like they will ever totally usurp regular controllers.

All you get off my lawn people need to look at how old you're already acting. Things change, and if you don't change with it, life will pass you by. Video games... bringing us serious life lessons from day one.

[Vampyr]

It not so much not being good at them as it is:

1. The average person will -never- be able to be as precise shaking something or waving their arm as they are timing a button press. You might get a prodigy once in a while who can, but that's it.

2. I don't want to stand or move anything other than my hands and eyes. I work all day. I go to the gym four days a week. I play games to relax.

[Xantar]

Originally Posted by Vampyr

It not so much not being good at them as it is:

1. The average person will -never- be able to be as precise shaking something or waving their arm as they are timing a button press. You might get a prodigy once in a while who can, but that's it.

See, that's the problem with most of the motion control games so far (including many of Nintendo's). A controller motion isn't a button press and shouldn't be used that way. But too many games treat the motion as a substitute for a button press.

We don't need more games that work better with a traditional controller. We need more games that work better with motion controls. Games like first person shooters or World of Goo or Wii Bowling or Tiger Woods Golf or Boom Blox. Games that require precisely timed button presses should stick with controllers. We need whole new genres to properly take advantage of motion controls in ways nobody has seen before, and we are only just starting to get to that point.

[BreakABone]

Originally Posted by Xantar

See, that's the problem with most of the motion control games so far (including many of Nintendo's). A controller motion isn't a button press and shouldn't be used that way. But too many games treat the motion as a substitute for a button press.

We don't need more games that work better with a traditional controller. We need more games that work better with motion controls. Games like first person shooters or World of Goo or Wii Bowling or Tiger Woods Golf or Boom Blox. Games that require precisely timed button presses should stick with controllers. We need whole new genres to properly take advantage of motion controls in ways nobody has seen before, and we are only just starting to get to that point.

Hey, I get to pimp something I wrote the other day

http://nerdsontherocks.com/?p=201

Some of the ideas that I thought have been noble this gen in terms of motion.

1. The average person will -never- be able to be as precise shaking something or waving their arm as they are timing a button press. You might get a prodigy once in a while who can, but that's it.

I agree with this to a degree.
This is why I don't get why gamers/media/journalist are begging for true 1:1 controls. 1:1 doesn't make a game more fun if anything it makes it more tedious and show how your lack of skill in a real life carries over to a game.

That said, if you can track the player into believe that their actions are well-represented on the screen than I think motion controls are working.

[Dylflon]

Originally Posted by manasecret

I'm all for motion controls, especially as they get perfected. They make many games a lot more intuitive. And it's not like they will ever totally usurp regular controllers.

All you get off my lawn people need to look at how old you're already acting. Things change, and if you don't change with it, life will pass you by. Video games... bringing us serious life lessons from day one.

Get the hell off my lawn, manasecret.

[BreakABone]

Bonus Round ep dealing with the fall-out from e3