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[Teuthida]

Seriously...don't know any podcast that misses this many weeks. Current one going through...I'm up to ep 172....they never missed a week...even when one of the hosts DIED.

[BreakABone]

Originally Posted by Teuthida

Seriously...don't know any podcast that misses this many weeks. Current one going through...I'm up to ep 172....they never missed a week...even when one of the hosts DIED.

I don't like doing this, it just doesn't work.
You can't compare two products no matter how much you want.

That being said, this is beginning to becoming an exercise in frustration. Yes, I know people do things outside of this podcast, but it just becomes a pain when others clear time and no one is around.

Anyhow, we shall try for the final time tonight, and if not you folks can have a thrill planning it over the weekend.

IF folks want to make it easier, you can exchange all manners of information. AIM names, Skype names, become facebook friends, I don't care.

So depending on who shows up tonight, we're either gonna record the Summer TV episode or try and record that and at least the FMA discussion part of an episode.

[Xantar]

Originally Posted by Teuthida

Seriously...don't know any podcast that misses this many weeks.

Clearly you don't listen to IGN podcasts.

Originally Posted by BreakABone

That being said, this is beginning to becoming an exercise in frustration. Yes, I know people do things outside of this podcast, but it just becomes a pain when others clear time and no one is around.

Hate to say this, but maybe this should be an indication to you that attempting to do two podcasts when the first one you started wasn't even fully established was a REALLY stupid idea.

[BreakABone]

Originally Posted by Xantar

Hate to say this, but maybe this should be an indication to you that attempting to do two podcasts when the first one you started wasn't even fully established was a REALLY stupid idea.

No because for the most part, I don't have any trouble with Dual Wielding. Yes, they've had sporadic recording.

But of the 4 times they all agreed to meet, they showed up 3 of those times. They work together on planning their time and are good about it. Even during the joint podcast we had Uber and Default show up when needed.

And they were willing to do a podcast on the 4th, but would have been 2 down.

So I'm not gonna hold it against them, that we can't get NoTR down to a nice rhythm.

[Xantar]

Originally Posted by BreakABone

No because for the most part, I don't have any trouble with Dual Wielding. Yes, they've had sporadic recording.

But of the 4 times they all agreed to meet, they showed up 3 of those times. They work together on planning their time and are good about it. Even during the joint podcast we had Uber and Default show up when needed.

And they were willing to do a podcast on the 4th, but would have been 2 down.

So I'm not gonna hold it against them, that we can't get NoTR down to a nice rhythm.

You completely missed the point while simultaneously making mine.

If we were only doing one podcast, we would have 7 or 8 people all able to contribute to it and we'd have a much easier time getting people together for a recording. Instead, it's been decided to split people up and attempt to maintain two podcasts simultaneously.

I don't hold anything against uber_paddler, default, or soccerant either. In fact, their punctuality is a great asset. It should be harnessed to along with people like you, me, Magus and thatmariolover to produce one regularly updating podcast about all subjects relevant to nerd-dom instead of two sporadically updating podcasts where the subject matter is split up and we struggle to come up with things to talk about when we don't have enough material for two shows. I don't care if this means Dual Wielding should be merged into Nerds on the Rocks or Nerds on the Rocks should be merged into Dual Wielding or if a whole new podcast should be started. We just don't have the manpower to do this reliably. Of all the people I've talked to, only one person ever thought it was a good idea to divide such clearly scarce resources.

I'm here to do whatever you guys want me to do, but this blatant idiocy is wearing on my patience.

[BreakABone]

Originally Posted by Xantar

If we were only doing one podcast, we would have 7 or 8 people all able to contribute to it and we'd have a much easier time getting people together for a recording. Instead, it's been decided to split people up and attempt to maintain two podcasts simultaneously.

There is no rule against them doing both or vice versa
Actually, a rotating cast was my original idea for this cast. It just somehow settled down to Magus, yourself and me.
Hell Uber and Default were on this week's podcast.

Its not taking anything away from NoTR to do DW, other than maybe an hour and a half on Sunday for them to record.

Of all the people I've talked to, only one person ever thought it was a good idea to divide such clearly scarce resources.

And hell as long as that one person remains me, I'll stand by my decision.

I'm here to do whatever you guys want me to do, but this blatant idiocy is wearing on my patience.

Listen, I didn't tie any anchor to your arse.

[BreakABone]

I've been having a good week so been avoiding this topic, but eh might as well.

I will say off the bat that I will continue to support both NoTR and DW as long as everyone makes it possible. If everyone wants to quit after this, I guess it happens.

Also, after this shall set up an e-mail account for NoTR so that folks don't IM me directly with their problems with the podcast (when its out, who's on it, etc). I get that it will come down to me anyhow, but its much easier to deal with when it doesn't cross over with my personal life/time.

With those two bits said, there is no answer that will satisfy folks as to why DW exist so I really won't try and make up a story for it. On a personal level, I'm a huge fan of games, and at some point assume everyone at this site was/is, so I liked the idea of having a dedicated gaming podcast. At the time of coming up with the concept of NoTR, I didn't think we had the caliber of gamers to run a weekly podcast (for the most part, many here don't buy games on a weekly or even monthly basis and not sure how many actually keep up with the news)

This is when I came up with the idea of NoTR which would focus on all things nerdy, and would be less topical so you didn't have to be a comic buyer or movie buyer or game buyer on a weekly basis and still have an interesting conversation. During the course of starting up NoTR (which was about 2 months or so), I also started to run the GameTavern Twitter account. And through that account, I came into contact with gamers who seemed to have a bit more of a passion for all things gaming.

After getting the foundation for NoTR set (which I think is fine, its the planning and execution we have issues with) I ASKED folks from Twitter, not from GT if they had any interest in doing this podcast. The reason I want to point this out, is for the folks saying that it takes resources away from NoTR. Aside from Uber, none of these folks were really GT posters before doing DW, they kind of hover around these parts because they are part of DW. Even with that said, they are still allowed to go on NoTR when they feel like its a topic that fits them.

So may be losing myself in the points so here is how it breaks down to me
-DW and NoTR exist for a broader appeal. As much as I LOVE the concept of NoTR, I also find it can be a bit limiting in reaching an audience since we jump from category to category each week. On the same hand, it is so broad that it can net us a lot of different folks.
-DW exists because at heart, I'm a gamer before anything else, and if it sounds selfish it happens, but I liked the idea of doing a gaming podcast, and I found talent that works well together and for the most part do their own thing. The podcast is scheduled, recorded and edited all by Dual Wielding staff.
-In more nefarious means, it was also a way to get Soccerant, Default and Carnage to become part of the GT community quickly.

That's all I really got.

Just to fix some other issues
-Like I said several times, Dual Wielders can be on NoTR, and Nerds can be on Dual Wielding. There's no rule against it.
-There is no rule against having a gaming discussion on NoTR, since we've done two episodes on e3, and this recent one dealt with DLC. I however will nix an idea I don't think has enough backing for. One of those ideas Xantar proposed that I nixed was talk on onLive and that was because none of us have experience using it so I didn't want to have a discussion on something we hadn't used before. I also believe I nixed the DRM talk because at the time, it was just uber, default and myself and Default didn't play PC game so would have been a two man discussion on something like that.
-As listeners, I don't expect everyone to listen to both podcasts, but I do like having the option out there for members of the forum, but also for the people I post to on Twitter or Facebook or anywhere else.