PlayStation Move Will Only Cost Me $180, And I’m Buying All of It

[BreakABone]

Okay first and foremost, I'm completely tired of people using this BaB is pro-Nintendo bullshit. One, I wasn't the one who bought the Wii into this conversation nor am I really trying to compare the Move to the Wii. Two, just because someone is pro-something doesn't mean they are anti-something. And three, everyone on this damn forum has their own personal preference, I just happen to voice my opinion the most on these boards. I don't hide what I like. I have a Batman avatar and a Nintendo sig. Its not that difficult to read.

With that said, you have yet to provide any type of compelling argument that isn't full of ifs and maybes.

But if you are honestly telling me you can't see the difference in buying a system that comes with a motion controller as standard and works with 99% of the games and buying an accessory that can run you up to $180 bucks for the full experience.. on top of the console of the console and works with a small % of the games... then there's no point in this argument.

You can't compare buying a Wii to buying a PS3. Its like comparing a classic controller to buying a 360 or a PS3. Sure it works for some games, and sure people prefer it/use it, but at the end of the day it is nothing that is relevant to the core experience of the console and you can do perfectly fine not owning one.

And just to show you this isn't an anti-Sony thing, I'll break down every game they have set for launch this year.



Sports Champion- PS Move Exclusive. Bundled with the package. Makes standard use of the controller. Does nothing we haven't seen on the Wii nor anything on the Kinect.
EyePet- PS Move Exclusive. A franchise that does decent, but nothing special, who knows this could change with the latest version.
Kung Fu Rider- PS Move Exclusive. Game looks interesting, but may be too odd ball a concept for a general audience to accept. Again we shall see.
Start The Party- PS Move Exclusive. A mini-game comp really. Those are a dime a dozen. Perhaps augmented reality will give it better legs.
echochrome ii- PS Move/PSN Title. General rule of thumb downloadable games while good, go ignored by the majority of gamers. I don't know how well the original sold.
Tumble- PS Move Exclusive. One of the most intriguing games in the launch line-up curious how it does.
Hustle Kings- Post launch Patch for Move Support.
PAIN- PSN game thats getting post launch Patch
TV Superstars- Not really sure what to think of this game. It looks extremely bad, but it does have a nice hook and uses Augmented reality as well. Could see it doing well.
The Fight: Lights Out- PS Move Exclusive. A fighting game that relies solely on motions, though unless they fixed it. Canned animations so really doesn't offer anything gamers have been craving with the Move (more precise controls)
The Shoot- PS Move exclusive. A rail shooter. Won't do well with the release of Time Crisis
High Velocity Bowling- Post release patch
Heavy Rain- Post release patch
The Sly Collection- An HD remake of PS2 games. Not sure what Move adds to it.
SingStar Dance- This series does well in Europe. But there's a whole slant of Dance games coming out this year, and I think most look more interesting
LittleBigPlanet- Offers support for Move, again, I'm not sure what it adds.
BeatSketchers- PS Move exclusive. Think MS Paint but on your console.
Tiger Woods/Toy Story- Post Release patch. Tiger series also took a MAJOR hit this year after his scandal.
Lord of the Rings- Not sure if this works with a normal controller, I doubt it since its a Wii port, but looks interesting for kids.
Brunswick Bowling- Believe its a post launch patch
Resident Evil 5: Gold Edition- Post release patch for only a handful of gamers since it won't work on the original version.
Time Crisis- PS Move Exclusive. The franchise has always done decent on consoles, I don't see this changing.
NBA 2k11- Supports Move, curious how well it does.
R.U.S.E- PS Move exclusive, I think, PSN title I want to say. RTS. Has potential.

The rest of the games just have Move support.

So after that let me EXPLAIN again, how I don't think the Move really has any software that is EXCLUSIVE only to the Move that would compel a normal person to pick it up.

Sure, there may be a few families who take in the novelty of the device. But as it stands right now, I don't see ANY reason for the Move to do well based on the LINE-UP of GAMES being released for it. Not some mysterious anti-Sony agenda.

[Typhoid]

With that said, you have yet to provide any type of compelling argument that isn't full of ifs and maybes.

That's because it hasn't been released. Nobody can talk 'fact' about it at this point. There is no proof of anything yet. There are no facts on how well this will or won't do.

Both of our opinions, mine and yours - are just that. opinions. Both of them based on 'maybes', that we - in our mind think are right.


I made a post, but fact is I just don't give a shit anymore. Neither of us are going to change our view on whether this will either fail terribly, or not fail that much. I will keep one part of my post, though:

The PS3 has been out for 4 years, it's sold 38.1 million units as of June 30th.
I'll just ask you right now, what would constitute the Move as a success? How many 'Moves' will have to be bought [and by when] for you to say "It did well"?

[BreakABone]

Depending on how they count Move

15% of PS3 userbase

Or 6 months of consistent hardware sales rise.

[TheGame]

My question here would be, is there a source out there that tells how many units the old add ons sold? Based on game sales I'd guess the sega CD sold around 2 mil, the 32X less then 1 mil, the Ram pack for N64 around 3.5-4mil. But I can't seem to find a site that directly says how many units the add-ons shipped.

As for BaB, I'm assuming 15% (or around 6 mil) would be the most sucsessful add on in history.

[manasecret]

Originally Posted by TheGame

My question here would be, is there a source out there that tells how many units the old add ons sold? Based on game sales I'd guess the sega CD sold around 2 mil, the 32X less then 1 mil, the Ram pack for N64 around 3.5-4mil. But I can't seem to find a site that directly says how many units the add-ons shipped.

As for BaB, I'm assuming 15% (or around 6 mil) would be the most sucsessful add on in history.

Wii Fit sold 22.5 million according to VGChartz http://www.vgchartz.com/game.php?id=7480 .

That, in my opinion, is a good and possibly only example of being a successful add-on.

Oh, except for Guitar Hero/Rock Band.

What was the key for those add-ons being successful? Wildly popular games to go with them. If the Move games don't have any break out hits in the bunch, it won't even have a chance.

[BreakABone]

I can honestly say I don't know how other add-ons have sold. Most companies (and NPD for that matter) don't really report sales like that.

I'm only guessing at 15% because it isn't a large majority (at all) and really depending on how it counts, would be easy for the PS Move. Since a console isn't limited to one Move set-up, someone could have 4 Move controllers, or we don't know if the one bundled with PS3 will count nor the other bundles. So really I'm just trying to cast a wide enough net until we actually know how Move will be counted.