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[Teuthida]

You're grasping at straws. How can you talk about art and skill?



Starry Nighted your ass.

And who knows what the make up of that is. Could be anything. Whereas with pie you have this:



Except just change the fruit for variation. Yawn.

And I like how you're playing the name game. Cheesecake is called cake but is really pie but then Hostess pies aren't really pies but pasties. Picking and choosing what's what instead of going by what it's called.

[Professor S]

Originally Posted by Teuthida

You're grasping at straws. How can you talk about art and skill?



Starry Nighted your ass.

And it made me throw up in my mouth a little. The art I speak of is what takes place in your mouth, not in icing that probably tastes like lighter fluid.

Except just change the fruit for variation. Yawn.

Simple, yet refined. The purity of the art form. Your cake is porn. Pie is a film by Truffaut.

And I like how you're playing the name game. Cheesecake is called cake but is really pie but then Hostess pies aren't really pies but pasties. Picking and choosing what's what instead of going by what it's called.

I'm not the one playing games. I said pasties are a variation of a pie. Cheesecake has nothing in common with a cake. NOTHING. It doesn't have leavening, nor FLOUR. It is a custard sitting on a crust. Hence: PIE.

You don't have to believe me. Ask Alton Brown from the Food Network.

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THE WORLD'S MOST POPULAR CAKE IS A PIE. GAME. SET. MATCH.

Good day to you, sir. Good day.

[Teuthida]

You don't have to believe me. Ask Alton Brown from the Food Network.

Fallacy: Argument from authority....and an Elvis impersonator.

THE WORLD'S MOST POPULAR CAKE IS A PIE. GAME. SET. MATCH.

And yet the most popular pie isn't cheesecake for when one asks another what sort of pie they would like, they answer with a singular noun of the preferred filling which is expected to be followed by the suffix of "pie". Thus no one will ever respond with: "cheese" when asked.

And on the whole matter of what makes pie, pie, please refer back to my hamburger/bread analogy. Wouldn't custard on cake be far superior to a thin piece of almost non existent crunchy blahness which is merely there to keep your plate just a tad less messy? The answer is a resounding: Yes, yes it would.

[Professor S]

Originally Posted by Teuthida

Fallacy: Argument from authority....and an Elvis impersonator.

Funny, I thought someone who is an authority on food, and illustrates the SCIENTIFIC difference between cake and pie, would hold weight...

And yet the most popular pie isn't cheesecake for when one asks another what sort of pie they would like, they answer with a singular noun of the preferred filling which is expected to be followed by the suffix of "pie". Thus no one will ever respond with: "cheese" when asked.

Now who is playing word games again?

I stand by argument, that will now be known to posterity as "The Cheesecake Revelation".

[Vampyr]

The greatest desert in the world is a cake:

[Professor S]

Originally Posted by Vampyr

The greatest desert in the world is a cake:

Your personal opinion on Tiramisu is apreciated, but inconsequential. Cheesecake is by far the most loved cake in the world. And it is a pie.

As for Tiramisu itself:

Tiramisu is a TRIFLE, not a cake, and it is made from layering components, and the only baked good involved are Lady Fingers which are best described as cookies or biscuits. It doesn't even have icing, but custard or pastry cream, which is what is used in Trifles.

Even the Wiki for for Tiramisu describes it as a Trifle.

There is some debate regarding tiramisu's origin. It may have originated as a variation of another layered dessert, the Zuppa Inglese, and is an Italian version of the English trifle.[1]

DO YOU CAKE PEOPLE EVEN KNOW WHAT CAKE IS?

[Vampyr]

Lady fingers are sponge cakes - the rest of tiramisu is basically just icing. Saying that a cake isn't cake because it has custard on it is like saying a pie can't be a pie because it has apples in it.

[Teuthida]

Originally Posted by Professor S

Funny, I thought someone who is an authority on food, and illustrates the SCIENTIFIC difference between cake and pie, would hold weight...

He knew he was on shaky ground so he had an Elvis impersonator do it for him. Plus "Brown says that he was a poor science student in high school and college..."

And now it also appears that you're basing your entire argument on one type of pie that isn't even called pie.

I'll just leave this here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cakes

Look at all those glorious cakes.



Now let's take a look at all those...um....crusty meats....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pies

[Professor S]

Originally Posted by Vampyr

Lady fingers are sponge cakes - the rest of tiramisu is basically just icing. Saying that a cake isn't cake because it has custard on it is like saying a pie can't be a pie because it has apples in it.

According to the Tirimisu Wiki they are in fact biscuits, the European name for cookies.

It is made of biscuits (usually savoiardi) dipped in coffee, layered with a whipped mixture of egg yolks and mascarpone, and flavored with liquor and cocoa

And NO, custard is not icing and it is not comprable to apples in an apple pie.

It is a trifle. You are entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.

Teuth, you argument against Alton Brown is absurd, and a tacit admission of failure. Since the argument has reduced to absurdities and deliberate lies, I will leave it.

The best cake is a pie.

Good day. Enjoy your pie.

[Teuthida]

Enjoy your cheesecake. The only decent pie. Don't get bored now.

*goes to survey the wonderful world of cake*

[Vampyr]

Originally Posted by Professor S

According to the Tirimisu Wiki they are in fact biscuits, the European name for cookies.



And NO, custard is not icing and it is not comprable to apples in an apple pie.

It is a trifle. You are entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.

Teuth, you argument against Alton Brown is absurd, and a tacit admission of failure. Since the argument has reduced to absurdities and deliberate lies, I will leave it.

The best cake is a pie.

Good day. Enjoy your pie.

That line you are quoting from wikipedia is immediately preceded by this line:

Tiramisu (Italian: tiramisù; Venetian: tiramesù [tirameˈsu]; literally "pull me up") is one of the most popular Italian cakes.