Rumor: Nintendo Set to reveal HD Wii at E3

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Originally Posted by BreakABone

See, I don't get this...

"No no, not gonna talk about the casual players who only pick up a yearly CoD or Madden or who made GTA into a mega franchise or turned FF 7 into a hit.

Only the ones who like to waggle their controllers*

"Casual" gamers are who drive the industry. They always have been. Perhaps, their faces have changed from generation to generation, but without them... you'll end up in a much more dire place with the gaming industry.

I think you're misrepresenting what I'm trying to say.

1) You can't really group gamers (or any large population of people) into easily defined, separate groups. Neither the term "casual" nor the term "hardcore" are going to work for every single gamer. It all depends on whose outlook you're using.

2) With that said, I was using the term "casual" to not necessarily mean people who pick up a CoD or Madden once a year, no. I was referring more to people like, say, my mom who hadn't touched a video game since Super Mario World until the Wii came out. Then she was all for Wii Fit and such. Or all those elderly people who got news stories about how they were bowling with their grandchildren. People like that. Yes, there are other types of gamers that could also be termed casual, but I wasn't referring to them. Maybe I should have used another term, but I don't think I'm unable to talk about smaller group of gamers than "anyone who has ever bought a Madden."

3) In either case, I don't hate nor am I against casual gamers in any way. I am fully aware that "casual" gamers make the vast majority of the market. I don't mind companies making products with the "casual" gamer in mind. My point was just that group of casual gamers (the elderly, the "new" gamers, etc.) that made Nintendo so successful this generation won't necessarily follow it to the next generation just because. They have what they want with the Wii, they won't upgrade just because its new. So, it makes sense for Nintendo to try to win back the "hardcore" market along with the section of the "casual" market that buys CoD and Madden every year.


Anyway, I think we ultimately agree on the main point that motion controls are cool, but only for certain games that can use them effectively. Otherwise they feel tacked on and superfluous. I am all for a primarily traditional console with the occasional game with motion controls.