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Old 05-07-2011, 06:41 AM   #1
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What about a system that only uses a controller.
Revolutionary!.

Maybe they can just create each game in it's own giant rectangle, or possibly in cube-form, and have it's own screen built in - so you can just plug the game in and play. Shooters can come with guns, and it will track where you aim! The future is so great!



I'm already sick of motion controls.
If every system goes with motion controls as the primary source of control - I think it might be time for me to grow up and stop playing games - because that just sounds entirely annoying and not relaxing at all.

I don't want to freakin' flail around or stand up to play my video games. I want to chill out on the couch, smoke a joint, stretch out and hardly move at all. Same principle as to why I don't want to wave my hand in the air to change the channel on my TV, or clap my hands to turn my light off.
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Re: Rumor: MS Set to Reveal New Console at E3
Old 05-07-2011, 01:54 PM   #2
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"Develop’s source is not employed at either company."

Red flag. Now IGN, after completely missing the red flag, is following it up with multiple updates that it's all BS.

I hope some day there is a site out which doesn't post BS. I don't think gaming sites will ever need to worry about their integrity on the same level as other news outlets (60 minutes, NY Times, etc.), nor should they, but after following various console launches (on both sides), I'm quite sick of it.

Gamasutra is good, but doesn't cover more of the consumer-oriented news, such as when I'm getting a new map pack. But I'd be happy to find a site which only posts actual news that I don't need to filter for BS. If you know of one, let me know.
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Old 05-08-2011, 09:52 AM   #3
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What about a system that only uses a controller.
Revolutionary!.

Maybe they can just create each game in it's own giant rectangle, or possibly in cube-form, and have it's own screen built in - so you can just plug the game in and play. Shooters can come with guns, and it will track where you aim! The future is so great!



I'm already sick of motion controls.
If every system goes with motion controls as the primary source of control - I think it might be time for me to grow up and stop playing games - because that just sounds entirely annoying and not relaxing at all.

I don't want to freakin' flail around or stand up to play my video games. I want to chill out on the couch, smoke a joint, stretch out and hardly move at all. Same principle as to why I don't want to wave my hand in the air to change the channel on my TV, or clap my hands to turn my light off.
I think a lot of your comments are based on the fact that motion control gaming just isn't done very well in its first generation. The sensors simply aren't accurate enough to register subtle or exact movement, so you have to flail around and stand to play most motion controlled games. To me that is an issue with execution, technology, and a lack of imagination. I think motion controlled gaming has a very bright future once they start perfecting it.
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Old 05-08-2011, 06:21 PM   #4
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The sensors simply aren't accurate enough to register subtle or exact movement, so you have to flail around and stand to play most motion controlled games. To me that is an issue with execution, technology, and a lack of imagination.

I think motion controls (or a motion controlled system) should be completely separate from gaming with a controller.

Especially now, considering everyone is trying to do it - and nobody is doing it well - so that will just harm both products (gaming with a controller, and motion).

I fear for the future of standard gaming.

I see motion controls being a great idea for things like arcades. That's what they should do. Revamp the idea of an arcade. Go full out on making great motion control games that you don't play from home. Spend extra time on them, and hell - make them come with a giant console as arcade games do - anything to make motion control be done properly, without ruining the integrity of actual home video game systems. Plus I actually think that would go over pretty well. Arcades became unpopular when consoles caught up in graphics and fun-ability - so if they spend their time making motion-control games with the purpose of putting them in an arcade - and a console without the purpose of putting motion controls in them, I think both parties would flourish substantially. Then you can have proper development and progression for actual consoles, and you can have amazing progress in the technological edge of motion gaming, without having to scale bits and pieces of both of them back in order to put them into a console you play from home. Split 'em up. Bring back arcades. Ramble ramble.
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Old 05-09-2011, 12:07 PM   #5
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I think motion controls (or a motion controlled system) should be completely separate from gaming with a controller.

Especially now, considering everyone is trying to do it - and nobody is doing it well - so that will just harm both products (gaming with a controller, and motion).

I fear for the future of standard gaming.

I see motion controls being a great idea for things like arcades. That's what they should do. Revamp the idea of an arcade. Go full out on making great motion control games that you don't play from home. Spend extra time on them, and hell - make them come with a giant console as arcade games do - anything to make motion control be done properly, without ruining the integrity of actual home video game systems. Plus I actually think that would go over pretty well. Arcades became unpopular when consoles caught up in graphics and fun-ability - so if they spend their time making motion-control games with the purpose of putting them in an arcade - and a console without the purpose of putting motion controls in them, I think both parties would flourish substantially. Then you can have proper development and progression for actual consoles, and you can have amazing progress in the technological edge of motion gaming, without having to scale bits and pieces of both of them back in order to put them into a console you play from home. Split 'em up. Bring back arcades. Ramble ramble.
I think that's the problem we have now with a lot of games is that motion and standard controls are treated differently.

When I still feel when used together work marvelously if done correctly.

And I can see Kinect/head/hand tracking with a normal controller being pretty damn good with tons of games.
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