GRR Martin's Game of Thrones (A Song of Ice and Fire)

[thatmariolover]

Originally Posted by Angrist

So how many episodes have there been yet? I thought it was only the pilot last month...

It was a 10 episode season and we saw the finale last night. Season 2 is already gearing up. This one was really well done, I can't wait for it.

My biggest concern at this point is that there's no way he'll have more than 5 or 6 books finished even if they were to do a season each year. Either we won't finish it or we'll have a gap and have to decide whether to recast everybody.

If anybody has interest in reading the books, Amazon has a decent deal going for the first 4: http://www.amazon.com/George-Martins...dp/0345529057/

The 5th is out in a month.

[Vampyr]

Well 5th is already done, so he has about 4 years to finish book six. He might make it, and for all we know he has some work done on six and seven already. So...there's a chance he could finish the series before the show catches up.

If not it will either have to go on hiatus or maybe he'll work with them to finish the show first. :\

[Dylflon]

Originally Posted by thatmariolover

It was a 10 episode season and we saw the finale last night. Season 2 is already gearing up. This one was really well done, I can't wait for it.

My biggest concern at this point is that there's no way he'll have more than 5 or 6 books finished even if they were to do a season each year. Either we won't finish it or we'll have a gap and have to decide whether to recast everybody.

If anybody has interest in reading the books, Amazon has a decent deal going for the first 4: http://www.amazon.com/George-Martins...dp/0345529057/

The 5th is out in a month.

The third book might be two seasons because it's effing massive. That's what I heard, anyways.

[Professor S]

I love this show, for one, because it is so well thought out. Example: In the first episode Ned takes the head of an innocent man, only to have his head taken as an innocent man in the 9th episode

[Vampyr]

Originally Posted by Professor S

I love this show, for one, because it is so well thought out. Example: In the first episode Ned takes the head of an innocent man, only to have his head taken as an innocent man in the 9th episode

The man wasn't "innocent" though - he had broken his vows. I thought the better part of those two scenes was how Ned explained to his children that he had to be the one to swing the sword, since he cast the sentence.

Joffrey ordered Illyn Payne to do it right after casting the sentence.

Another good example is the whole thing about Dany not being able to be burned, while Visaeris was. This was shown several times throughout the season, like when Visaeris was in the bathtub and complained that the candle wax dripped on him hurt. Then he was killed by the molten gold.

[thatmariolover]

My biggest problem with the Fantasy genre is that many authors seem to develop their stories and their characters separately. Just because you've conceptualized a provoking character, it doesn't mean they fit into the world you've imagined. Often times you end up with conflicts between what needs to happen and what the character should do. In the end the character bends to make the story work and you get a book that's a shadow of what it could have been.

Martin is different.

While it's easy to romanticize the characters, they're all distinct individuals with identifiable goals and ultimately things make sense even if you didn't see them coming. If you have an established character and something doesn't make sense or sticks out, it's usually for a reason that has either already been hinted at or will be revealed later.

There's just a lot less maneuvering to get things where they need to be. People do the things they would do and as a result the story progresses as it should.