Holy Cows Spiderman 4 Canned, Raimi/Maguire Quit

TheSlyMoogle · 12-06-2011, 03:14 AM

Honestly that looks like the shitty reptile people in the super mario brothers movie. That one with Bob Hoskins, you know that one people don't talk about.

Professor S · 12-09-2011, 12:53 PM

For some reason Hollywood has an obsession with having all characters maintain a human mouth. The biggest examples of this are Optimus Prime's awful CGI face in the movies, and worse, Snake Eyes...

KillerGremlin · 12-09-2011, 04:22 PM

The point of the reboot is to go dark, right?

Spidey 1 and 2 absolutely fell apart in the CGI department and are hilariously bad. But the "comic feel" is pretty good. It seems like the best Marvel movies are the ones injected with tons of humor: Ironman was hilarious, The Avengers movie coming out looks to be hilarious.

I've said it like 14 times on this very forum, but the reason why Batman Begins and the Dark Knight are both so good is because they picked pretty "realistic" villains and they DON'T SHOW A TON OF FIGHTING. There's a lot of regular, non-CGI stunts in the Dark Knight. The whole bank scene at the beginning is brilliant cinematography and will look just as good in 50 years as it does today. We will see how Nolan handles Catwoman...but different thread.

Anyway, I don't understand why we don't go with The Kingpin. Dark, logical, human...and a serious foil in the Spidey universe. The problem with Spiderman is the villains are hugely CGI dependent. But...Hellboy was great and has held up well. I think they used a lot of body suites and real props. I love that movie.

Also, a dark Spiderman reboot beckons a dark symbiote story arc. Where is the Carnage that kills people left and right. Put that guy on screen.

I still have mixed feelings about this reboot.

KillerGremlin · 12-09-2011, 04:37 PM

Hell, as a long time Spidey fan I was really happy with Norman Osborn being the main villain. William Dafoe is a little too Shakespeare and not quite dark enough to be Osborn, IN MY OPINION, but the movie is light-humored and has levity.

A reboot with Osborn as a villain would work, but who wants to see that again.

I still think you gotta go Kingpin. Tombstone, Hammerhead, the Rhino, and Shocker, are all classic Spider-Man villains and have enough reality to ground them like the Nolan choices that make the Batman movies work.

Throw in the Kingpin as the leader planning some dirty crime, add in one of the above baddies, and I think you could make a really enjoyable movie.

Here's the thing though....Spider-Man is a jokester and the comics are full of levity. Spidey always has inner-monologues. I feel like Spider-Man 1 and 2 both captures some of the levity. I was okay with Tobey Maguire being Peter Parker. Ultimate Spider-Man really appeals to the younger generation...but it doesn't read a whole lot darker. If anything, the original Amazing Spider-Man Vol. 1 was much darker towards the middle and end of the run. I'm not up to date on any comics....because there's too much shit to follow, too many reboots, special events. Bleh. It's like a full time job trying to keep up with all the stupid comics these days.