A Song of Ice and Fire Series (Books) *Spoilers*

[Angrist]

Sounds like it was a good decision to wait for all books to be done before reading 3&4.
Oh, did any of you use that chapter list that makes book 3 and 4 chronological again? GRRM promised he'd post it so you can turn those 2 books into 1 again. That's what I'm going to do, even though I haven't seen the list.

[ZebraRampage]

Originally Posted by Angrist

Sounds like it was a good decision to wait for all books to be done before reading 3&4.
Oh, did any of you use that chapter list that makes book 3 and 4 chronological again? GRRM promised he'd post it so you can turn those 2 books into 1 again. That's what I'm going to do, even though I haven't seen the list.

I think you mean books 4 and 5. And now I didn't see the chronological chapter list, but it really didn't bother me reading them separately. Once it all lines up in ADwD it doesn't matter anymore.


Angrist, I'm going to start laying out some future theories post ADwD, so if you don't want to read any spoilers then stop here. I'd rather not make this another "confidential" document. I'll make a separate post for my spoilers though.

My next post is going to be about where all of the characters were at the end of ADwD, but I need to do a little bit of research since I forget every detail.

[Angrist]

Originally Posted by ZebraRampage

Angrist, I'm going to start laying out some future theories post ADwD, so if you don't want to read any spoilers then stop here. I'd rather not make this another "confidential" document.

No problem!

[ZebraRampage]

Okay so let me know if I'm missing any plot lines.


I'll start with Daenerys, she married Hizdahr zo Loraq who is the noble leader of Meereen. But on the day she opens the fighting pits she escapes on Drogon, and burns a lot of people as well. She ends up on the Dothraki Sea with her dragon and meets up with khalasar of Khal Jhaqo.

Quinten Martell dies while trying to take control of one of her other dragons to follow her cause, and Hizdahr is taken out of power by Barristan Selmy, who is now in control of everything in Meereen, including Rhaegal and Viserion.

Victarion Greyjoy has taken the Iron Fleet through the storm in Slaver's Bay and to the shores of Meereen where he plans to marry Daenerys, against Euron's wishes, who wanted Victarion to bring Daenerys back to be his Queen.



I'm going to get back to this later, I'm kind of occupied at the moment. Add any other plot lines if you feel like it.

[Ginkasa]

Originally Posted by Angrist

Sounds like it was a good decision to wait for all books to be done before reading 3&4.
Oh, did any of you use that chapter list that makes book 3 and 4 chronological again? GRRM promised he'd post it so you can turn those 2 books into 1 again. That's what I'm going to do, even though I haven't seen the list.

Here's a chronological list of the chapters in A Feast for Crows and A Dance with Dragons. Its not from GRRM so its not "official," I guess, but I don't think there has been an official list released by him. Also, a brief disclaimer, I haven't read the books according to this list (and probably won't), so I can't vouch for its effectiveness. Its there, though, if you want to read it that way instead of as published.

[ZebraRampage]

Originally Posted by Ginkasa

Here's a chronological list of the chapters in A Feast for Crows and A Dance with Dragons. Its not from GRRM so its not "official," I guess, but I don't think there has been an official list released by him. Also, a brief disclaimer, I haven't read the books according to this list (and probably won't), so I can't vouch for its effectiveness. Its there, though, if you want to read it that way instead of as published.

That is pretty cool, and it's probably pretty accurate. This is the kind of thing that people get anal about.


I wanted to have a summary for each character, but as I was researching it became difficult to touch every bit of information needed. My main goal is to talk about possible plot lines in the next two books. I've been reading in the forum for westeros.org, and some of the theories in there are very specific with cool twists.

The best theory so far is the idea that Rhaegar Targaryen and Lyanna Stark are the true parents of Jon Snow. It is believed that she asked Ned Stark to promise to take care of Jon, but he also had to keep the secret that he was the son of those two. In order to do that he had to lie about Jon being his Bastard. And I bet that he never told Robert the truth, because Jon would be a threat to the throne, being half Targaryen.

[Ginkasa]

Oh yeah, that's a big one. I think a whole lot of people just assume it as truth now. There's a lot that point to it. Fortunately, GRRM doesn't seem to be the type to change a twist if people figure it out early (so, at least, if L+R=J turns out untrue we can fill confident it was always not true ).

Sort of a companion theory is that Aerys the Mad King is Tyrion's true father. Basically, Aerys took certain liberties with Tywin's wife and became pregnant with Tyrion.

The end theory here is that Jon, Tyrion, and Daenerys are the three heads of the dragon (being all three Targaryens) and all three represent Azhor Azhai reborn. Something like that. It'll be exciting seeing if its true.

[Acebot44]

Here is the list, posted earlier by Ginkasa.

Originally Posted by Ginkasa

Here's a chronological list of the chapters in A Feast for Crows and A Dance with Dragons. Its not from GRRM so its not "official," I guess, but I don't think there has been an official list released by him. Also, a brief disclaimer, I haven't read the books according to this list (and probably won't), so I can't vouch for its effectiveness. Its there, though, if you want to read it that way instead of as published.

And I haven't read them before, but after letting my eyes drop down to the Amazon reviews on AFFC, I decided that I couldn't bear reading a whole book without knowing what happens to Jon, Tyrion and Dany. Also, having around 25% of AFFC dedicated to Cersei is NO BUENO.

[Ginkasa]

Despite what I said earlier about probably not following that list, I've changed my mind and probably will whenever I do another readthrough of the series, so I'm interested to see how you like it.

[ZebraRampage]

Originally Posted by Ginkasa

Despite what I said earlier about probably not following that list, I've changed my mind and probably will whenever I do another readthrough of the series, so I'm interested to see how you like it.

I'll be reading the series again when the The Winds of Winter is closer to coming out, so I'll probably read AFFC and ADwD in this fashion as well. You'll probably get a better opinion of how it is from people who have read it before.

[Acebot44]

I'm liking mixing up the chapters....I'm liking it alot.