maybe it's just me, but I've never really been impressed with the graphics of the ps2...Ico still comes to my mind as the best graphical game, and that was basically a launch game wasn't it? I guess MGS2 was incredible at the time I saw the demo, but it got surpassed so quickly that it lost effect by the time it was released, same with FFX... doesn't matter though because there are so many kick ass games coming out. Oh and I think I remember the Pres. of Rockstar saying that the hardware is basically maxed out in last months PSM
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